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From: Cathy F. on 30 Jul 2007 19:27 <mrv(a)kluge.net> wrote in message news:1185834439.342036.44020(a)l70g2000hse.googlegroups.com... > On Jul 30, 4:06 pm, Moon Goddess <M...(a)no-spam.www> wrote: >> If I wanted a reasonably priced 4WD, what's the most reliable one that >> gets the most MPG? >> >> Is it a Toyota or another brand? > > For US 2007 models, getting a combined EPA MPG of greater than 25 and > which are 4WD or AWD: > > Ford Escape Hybrid 4WD version: > http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/22997.shtml > or the Mercury Mariner Hybrid: > http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/23019.shtml > 28MPG city/27MPG highway/27MPG combined (2008 estimated EPA MPG). > > Toyota Highlander Hybrid 4WD version: > http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/23835.shtml > or the Lexus RX400h 4WD version: > http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/23820.shtml > 27MPG city/25MPG highway/26MPG combined (2008 estimated EPA MPG). > > for pricing, I'd probably stay with the Ford/Toyota rather than the > upscale Mercury/Lexus versions. She was considering a Prius to be too pricey - my guess is that no way is she going to want/be able to fork out the $$ for these - esp. the Highlander or Lexus. Then factor in their lower (than a Prius) mpg, and... Cathy > > For the unplowed snow driving that you are asking about, you'd > probably do better with a high ground clearance vehicle with good snow > tires, than to just look for 4WD/AWD, though. (A FWD Prius with good > snow tires can get you most anywhere (without snow tires you can get > stuck) provided you have less than 4" or so of its ground clearance.) >
From: JoeSpareBedroom on 30 Jul 2007 19:37 "Moon Goddess" <MG(a)no-spam.www> wrote in message news:z4WdnWYlucRXwDPbnZ2dnUVZ_vjinZ2d(a)forethought.net... > "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop(a)nastydesigns.com> wrote : > >> In article <xKmdndRcKdOSxzPbnZ2dnUVZ_uLinZ2d(a)forethought.net>, >> Moon Goddess <MG(a)no-spam.www> wrote: >> >>> > What kind of driving do you expect to do that you need a 4WD? >>> > snow, mountain climbing, dirt roads, are you going to tow >>> > anything, do you need a small 4wd or large 4wd. >>> > >>> >>> Mostly city snow driving. I need something as fuel efficient as >>> possible, I do a lot of business driving. >> >> Then you do NOT want a vehicle that is able to drive all four wheels. >> Those mechanisms all weigh something, which costs gas to haul around >> all the time. It's like having another person in the car at all >> times. That extra gas costs $$$. It's a MPG penalty. >> >> Plus, all those systems require maintenance of their own, above and >> beyond what their 2wd brothers need. That also costs $$$. >> >> City driving? You'll be fine with front wheel drive and good tires. >> I heavily recommend Nokian WR. Absolute worst case, you buy snow >> tires with a more aggressive tread as well as a winter rating, and >> you run those during winter. But city driving? Paved roads that get >> plowed? You don't need 4wd or awd at all. >> >> > > Only the main roads get plowed here and much of my work is driving into > the back neighborhoods, where I had a heck of a time last winter with > sometimes 6" of snow in the streets. > > There's a hill along the street our driveway exits onto and even that > gets hard to get out of when it snows more than a few inches, and the > city cares not about it. > My prediction: Within 60 days of the snow starting, you'll drive your 4WD thing into a ditch and wonder why it didn't work like magic. Get a front wheel drive SOMETHING, and some very serious snow tires. Blizzak is a good example of a tire that would make you happy. Oh...and learn to drive.
From: Mike Hunter on 30 Jul 2007 20:21 If one REALLY knows how to drive they would buy a RWD vehicle with a traction lock axle, traction control and equipped with a set of winter rubber tires. When one lets off the gas, while driving their FWD car on a wet or icy turn and slides into a ditch, that is what cop comes to the scene in to investigate the accident. LOL mike "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:NCuri.13049$ya1.4827(a)news02.roc.ny... > "Moon Goddess" <MG(a)no-spam.www> wrote in message >> There's a hill along the street our driveway exits onto and even that >> gets hard to get out of when it snows more than a few inches, and the >> city cares not about it. >> > > My prediction: Within 60 days of the snow starting, you'll drive your 4WD > thing into a ditch and wonder why it didn't work like magic. > > Get a front wheel drive SOMETHING, and some very serious snow tires. > Blizzak is a good example of a tire that would make you happy. Oh...and > learn to drive. >
From: High Tech Misfit on 30 Jul 2007 20:29 Jeff wrote: > I have a '97 Ford Contour with 145k mi on it. I have had to do some > suspension work (rear struts), oil, two wheel bearings and one axle (one > side). Not great, but not bad for a car with 145k on it. > > I haven't about the reliability of Escapes, but the Contour is a pretty > reliable car, with many going to 250 to 300k or more. > Thanks for providing me with a much needed laugh for the day.
From: Jeff on 30 Jul 2007 21:44
Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote: > In article <2xqrmtlv64yu.dlg(a)hightech.misfit>, > High Tech Misfit <me(a)privacy.net> wrote: > >>> I haven't about the reliability of Escapes, but the Contour is a pretty >>> reliable car, with many going to 250 to 300k or more. >>> >> Thanks for providing me with a much needed laugh for the day. > > he was talking engine revolutions, not miles. No, i was talking about miles. My engine runs as smoothly as the day it was new. |