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From: Tomes on 1 Aug 2007 08:14 "Moon Goddess" <MG(a)no-spam.www> wrote in message news:UaqdnaQj8ueLLTLbnZ2dnUVZ_qninZ2d(a)forethought.net... > EdV <systmengr(a)hotmail.com> wrote : > >> Maybe you can also choose one with a higher ground clearance if the >> road conditions are really that bad. > > They CAN be, and my work requires that I drive into neighborhoods all > the > time, which are least likely to get attention from snow plows. > > This past winter was just bad, I suppose. We don't usually get a lot of > snow like that. Global warming, eh? :) > And that is the main trouble in the snow with the Prius - the meager ground clearance. It is the same ground clearance that helps it get better gas mileage due to better aerodynamics. I found this out last winter (in NJ) where we had some inches of snow. I, as I often do, just ran up and down 600 foot long the driveway in the Jeep to pack it all down. Well, it did not pack down in between the wheels and the Prius did have trouble with the piled up snow in the middle. Tomes
From: Moon Goddess on 3 Aug 2007 22:00 B A R R Y <beech23pilot(a)yahoo.com> wrote : > -hh wrote: >> >> It is good advice. Around ten years ago, Car & Driver magazine did a >> test where they looked at winter performance, and pitted a 4WD on All- >> Season tires against a 2WD using snow tires...IIRC, for 8 of the 10 >> tests, the 2WD w/snows outperformed the 4WD on All-Seasons. > > I wish they would pit a 4x4 with low profile tires on 24" wheels to a > stock '87 Yugo in the snow. <G> > > Why people buy 4WD and then eliminate all tire traction is beyond me. > Someone mentioned that the Prius has a plastic pan covering the bottom of the engine area that can get damaged in snow? What if someone had the car raised up several inches? Is that expensive?
From: JoeSpareBedroom on 3 Aug 2007 22:20 "Moon Goddess" <MG(a)no-spam.www> wrote in message news:ZuqdnVkRiaVRQC7bnZ2dnUVZ_qTinZ2d(a)forethought.net... >B A R R Y <beech23pilot(a)yahoo.com> wrote : > >> -hh wrote: >>> >>> It is good advice. Around ten years ago, Car & Driver magazine did a >>> test where they looked at winter performance, and pitted a 4WD on All- >>> Season tires against a 2WD using snow tires...IIRC, for 8 of the 10 >>> tests, the 2WD w/snows outperformed the 4WD on All-Seasons. >> >> I wish they would pit a 4x4 with low profile tires on 24" wheels to a >> stock '87 Yugo in the snow. <G> >> >> Why people buy 4WD and then eliminate all tire traction is beyond me. >> > > > Someone mentioned that the Prius has a plastic pan covering the bottom of > the engine area that can get damaged in snow? > > What if someone had the car raised up several inches? Is that expensive? > Just you never mind that idea. In order to pimp a Prius, you must be Asian, and live in either Los Angeles or Tokyo.
From: Moon Goddess on 3 Aug 2007 22:37 "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis(a)yahoo.com> wrote : > "Moon Goddess" <MG(a)no-spam.www> wrote in message > news:ZuqdnVkRiaVRQC7bnZ2dnUVZ_qTinZ2d(a)forethought.net... >>B A R R Y <beech23pilot(a)yahoo.com> wrote : >> >>> -hh wrote: >>>> >>>> It is good advice. Around ten years ago, Car & Driver magazine >>>> did a test where they looked at winter performance, and pitted a >>>> 4WD on All- Season tires against a 2WD using snow tires...IIRC, >>>> for 8 of the 10 tests, the 2WD w/snows outperformed the 4WD on >>>> All-Seasons. >>> >>> I wish they would pit a 4x4 with low profile tires on 24" wheels to >>> a stock '87 Yugo in the snow. <G> >>> >>> Why people buy 4WD and then eliminate all tire traction is beyond >>> me. >>> >> >> >> Someone mentioned that the Prius has a plastic pan covering the >> bottom of the engine area that can get damaged in snow? >> >> What if someone had the car raised up several inches? Is that >> expensive? >> > > Just you never mind that idea. In order to pimp a Prius, you must be > Asian, and live in either Los Angeles or Tokyo. > > > LOL!
From: Cathy F. on 3 Aug 2007 22:39
"Moon Goddess" <MG(a)no-spam.www> wrote in message news:ZuqdnVkRiaVRQC7bnZ2dnUVZ_qTinZ2d(a)forethought.net... >B A R R Y <beech23pilot(a)yahoo.com> wrote : > >> -hh wrote: >>> >>> It is good advice. Around ten years ago, Car & Driver magazine did a >>> test where they looked at winter performance, and pitted a 4WD on All- >>> Season tires against a 2WD using snow tires...IIRC, for 8 of the 10 >>> tests, the 2WD w/snows outperformed the 4WD on All-Seasons. >> >> I wish they would pit a 4x4 with low profile tires on 24" wheels to a >> stock '87 Yugo in the snow. <G> >> >> Why people buy 4WD and then eliminate all tire traction is beyond me. >> > > > Someone mentioned that the Prius has a plastic pan covering the bottom of > the engine area that can get damaged in snow? > > What if someone had the car raised up several inches? Is that expensive? Wouldn't that negate much of the engineering that went into it, re: its aerodynamics & mpg? Cathy > |