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From: Moon Goddess on 31 Jul 2007 02:39 "Cathy F." <clfrclfr(a)adelphia.net> wrote : > > "Moon Goddess" <MG(a)no-spam.www> wrote in message > news:xKmdndRcKdOSxzPbnZ2dnUVZ_uLinZ2d(a)forethought.net... >> EdV <systmengr(a)hotmail.com> wrote : >> >>> What kind of driving do you expect to do that you need a 4WD? snow, >>> mountain climbing, dirt roads, are you going to tow anything, do >>> you need a small 4wd or large 4wd. >>> >> >> Mostly city snow driving. I need something as fuel efficient as >> possible, I do a lot of business driving. > > Then I'd stick with front wheel drive, & give it tires which are > rated as very good/excellent in snow. Sounds wise, thanks Cathy.
From: Moon Goddess on 31 Jul 2007 02:40 "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis(a)yahoo.com> wrote : > "Moon Goddess" <MG(a)no-spam.www> wrote in message > news:z4WdnWYlucRXwDPbnZ2dnUVZ_vjinZ2d(a)forethought.net... >> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop(a)nastydesigns.com> wrote : >> >>> In article <xKmdndRcKdOSxzPbnZ2dnUVZ_uLinZ2d(a)forethought.net>, >>> Moon Goddess <MG(a)no-spam.www> wrote: >>> >>>> > What kind of driving do you expect to do that you need a 4WD? >>>> > snow, mountain climbing, dirt roads, are you going to tow >>>> > anything, do you need a small 4wd or large 4wd. >>>> > >>>> >>>> Mostly city snow driving. I need something as fuel efficient as >>>> possible, I do a lot of business driving. >>> >>> Then you do NOT want a vehicle that is able to drive all four >>> wheels. >>> Those mechanisms all weigh something, which costs gas to haul >>> around >>> all the time. It's like having another person in the car at all >>> times. That extra gas costs $$$. It's a MPG penalty. >>> >>> Plus, all those systems require maintenance of their own, above and >>> beyond what their 2wd brothers need. That also costs $$$. >>> >>> City driving? You'll be fine with front wheel drive and good >>> tires. I heavily recommend Nokian WR. Absolute worst case, you buy >>> snow tires with a more aggressive tread as well as a winter rating, >>> and you run those during winter. But city driving? Paved roads >>> that get plowed? You don't need 4wd or awd at all. >>> >>> >> >> Only the main roads get plowed here and much of my work is driving >> into the back neighborhoods, where I had a heck of a time last >> winter with sometimes 6" of snow in the streets. >> >> There's a hill along the street our driveway exits onto and even >> that gets hard to get out of when it snows more than a few inches, >> and the city cares not about it. >> > > My prediction: Within 60 days of the snow starting, you'll drive your > 4WD thing into a ditch and wonder why it didn't work like magic. > > Get a front wheel drive SOMETHING, and some very serious snow tires. > Blizzak is a good example of a tire that would make you happy. > Oh...and learn to drive. > > > Well humphh. :) I drive very well thank you. You just haven't seen the mess that they leave most residential streets in, in the Denver area after a decent storm.
From: Moon Goddess on 31 Jul 2007 02:41 "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop(a)nastydesigns.com> wrote : > In article <z4WdnWYlucRXwDPbnZ2dnUVZ_vjinZ2d(a)forethought.net>, > Moon Goddess <MG(a)no-spam.www> wrote: > >> > City driving? You'll be fine with front wheel drive and good >> > tires. I heavily recommend Nokian WR. Absolute worst case, you >> > buy snow tires with a more aggressive tread as well as a winter >> > rating, and you run those during winter. But city driving? Paved >> > roads that get plowed? You don't need 4wd or awd at all. >> > >> > >> >> Only the main roads get plowed here and much of my work is driving >> into the back neighborhoods, where I had a heck of a time last >> winter with sometimes 6" of snow in the streets. > > Just get real snow tires for your Corolla, and see what that does for > you this winter. > > I'm pretty sure you'll be amazed. > > BTW--I charge only 10% of what you save with my advice. So let's > see.....$23,000 you saved by not buying a Prius, less $500 you spent > for good snow tires.....$22,500....you owe me $2250. > > LOL! :)
From: Go Mavs on 31 Jul 2007 05:47 "Moon Goddess" <MG(a)no-spam.www> wrote in message news:z4WdnWYlucRXwDPbnZ2dnUVZ_vjinZ2d(a)forethought.net... > "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop(a)nastydesigns.com> wrote : > >> In article <xKmdndRcKdOSxzPbnZ2dnUVZ_uLinZ2d(a)forethought.net>, >> Moon Goddess <MG(a)no-spam.www> wrote: >> >>> > What kind of driving do you expect to do that you need a 4WD? >>> > snow, mountain climbing, dirt roads, are you going to tow >>> > anything, do you need a small 4wd or large 4wd. >>> > >>> >>> Mostly city snow driving. I need something as fuel efficient as >>> possible, I do a lot of business driving. >> >> Then you do NOT want a vehicle that is able to drive all four wheels. >> Those mechanisms all weigh something, which costs gas to haul around >> all the time. It's like having another person in the car at all >> times. That extra gas costs $$$. It's a MPG penalty. >> >> Plus, all those systems require maintenance of their own, above and >> beyond what their 2wd brothers need. That also costs $$$. >> >> City driving? You'll be fine with front wheel drive and good tires. >> I heavily recommend Nokian WR. Absolute worst case, you buy snow >> tires with a more aggressive tread as well as a winter rating, and >> you run those during winter. But city driving? Paved roads that get >> plowed? You don't need 4wd or awd at all. >> >> > > Only the main roads get plowed here and much of my work is driving into > the back neighborhoods, where I had a heck of a time last winter with > sometimes 6" of snow in the streets. > > There's a hill along the street our driveway exits onto and even that > gets hard to get out of when it snows more than a few inches, and the > city cares not about it. then get a ford escape hybrid and shut up
From: High Tech Misfit on 31 Jul 2007 07:28
Jeff wrote: > Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote: >> In article <2xqrmtlv64yu.dlg(a)hightech.misfit>, >> High Tech Misfit <me(a)privacy.net> wrote: >> >>>> I haven't about the reliability of Escapes, but the Contour is a pretty >>>> reliable car, with many going to 250 to 300k or more. >>>> >>> Thanks for providing me with a much needed laugh for the day. >> >> he was talking engine revolutions, not miles. > > No, i was talking about miles. My engine runs as smoothly as the day it > was new. And again I say, you have been very, very lucky with yours. |