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From: ransley on 27 Jan 2010 17:43 On Jan 27, 11:07 am, "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote: > According to Automotive News, at this point Toyota does not have a clue as > to the cause. At first engineers believed it was caused by certain types > of floor mats. That led to a recall and an advisory to dealers to cut off > a part of the bottom of the accelerator, until new shorter ones could be > made available. > > Turns out the accelerator petal was NOT the problem and engineers suspected > that it was the linkage itself, because Toyota with cut off accelerator > petals were running away. > > However after over a dozen deaths it soon became apparent it was NOT the > linkage either, because vehicles with fly by wire throttle controls were > running away as well. > > Most other manufactures have an override that disables the electronic > throttle when the brakes are applied, but Toyota does not. That does not > take into account the fact that manual linkages on older vehicles are also > having the problem. > > The fact that both manual and fly by wire systems are going out of control > is perplexing, thus the stop selling order, as engineers scramble for the > cause. > > If Toyota dealers can't sell, Toyota must stop manufacturing and importing > vehicles or they will end up in the position they were at the end of 2009 > with hundreds of thousands of unsold vehicles still in plant storage lots > and at ports of entry. > > When Toyota shut down the Tundra plant for three months, because of its > dismal sales, it still paid the workers at the Texas plant. Toyota had no > comment on whether they would pay it workers around the world during this > massive shut down. Stay tuned! > > john" <johngd...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:d69dac46-67a0-4d1a-b9db-94a5f53016d1(a)l19g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... > > > > > "Toyota Motor Corp. said today it would halt production at five North > > American plants and order dealers to stop selling eight models > > recalled last week over concerns with sticking accelerator pedals." > > > From The Detroit News: > >http://apps.detnews.com/apps/blogs/danielhowesblog/index.php?blogid=3....- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Once working on my 91, I made by accident it go full thottle by itself, the cable did not go back in fast enough after reving at the top of the motor and it bent kind of creating a bind, I pulled the cable and it released, so there is truth to all this, although I suspect this excuse is the #1 everybody uses to be deemed compitant when its actualy driver negligence is #1 in accidents
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 27 Jan 2010 12:55 On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 12:10:50 -0500, Mike Hunter wrote: > GM stopped production of the Fiero years ago and not longer makes > Pontiac. GM today is comprised of Chevrolet, Buick, Cadillac and GMC And still haven't learned anything. Government should have let them sink, except for the 68,000 union votes it brings in. > > > "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message > news:pan.2010.01.26.23.00.55.736541(a)e86.GTS... >> On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 19:31:35 -0800, john wrote: >> >>> "Toyota Motor Corp. said today it would halt production at five North >>> American plants and order dealers to stop selling eight models recalled >>> last week over concerns with sticking accelerator pedals." >>> >>> From The Detroit News: >>> http://apps.detnews.com/apps/blogs/danielhowesblog/index.php?blogid=350#ixzz0dmQAmB7B >> >> Instead of 'slowing down' when an error is realized, Toyota stops >> production. >> >> Gm would do well to learn from this. Burning Fieros, CV joints wleded to >> make a FWD engine a RWD engine, etc. >> >> >> >>
From: dr_jeff on 27 Jan 2010 17:59 Mike Hunter wrote: > Old news, one can no longer buys those old cars, You can however still buy > one of the many runaway Toyotas models. only used > "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message > news:pan.2010.01.27.00.37.45.547150(a)e86.GTS... >> On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 21:07:03 -0800, jr92 wrote: >> >>> What they are doing now is is simply a PR move. >>> >>> >>> Many are considering it to be a desperation tactic. >>> >>> >>> Time will tell if their PR move pays off. >>> >>> >>> Myself, >>> >>> I value my loved ones' well-being too much to risk putting them into the >>> likes of a Toyota. >> Really? What DO you put them into? >> >> My last Toyota was recalled for... >> >> the antenna not mounted to the body correctly, which may cause static on >> the radio. >> >> With Ford sticking stickers on the dash saying, This car may go into >> reverse at any time... >> >> Chevy making rolling blunders >> >> I'll stick to Toytota. They aren't perfect, but about as close as you can >> get at a good price. >> >> >> > >
From: Mike Hunter on 27 Jan 2010 19:23 How do you thinks that would that have prevented Toyotas massive safety recall? LOL "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message news:pan.2010.01.27.17.55.34.757905(a)e86.GTS... > On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 12:10:50 -0500, Mike Hunter wrote: > >> GM stopped production of the Fiero years ago and not longer makes >> Pontiac. GM today is comprised of Chevrolet, Buick, Cadillac and GMC > > And still haven't learned anything. > > Government should have let them sink, except for the 68,000 union votes it > brings in. > > >> >> >> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >> news:pan.2010.01.26.23.00.55.736541(a)e86.GTS... >>> On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 19:31:35 -0800, john wrote: >>> >>>> "Toyota Motor Corp. said today it would halt production at five North >>>> American plants and order dealers to stop selling eight models recalled >>>> last week over concerns with sticking accelerator pedals." >>>> >>>> From The Detroit News: >>>> http://apps.detnews.com/apps/blogs/danielhowesblog/index.php?blogid=350#ixzz0dmQAmB7B >>> >>> Instead of 'slowing down' when an error is realized, Toyota stops >>> production. >>> >>> Gm would do well to learn from this. Burning Fieros, CV joints wleded to >>> make a FWD engine a RWD engine, etc. >>> >>> >>> >>> >
From: Mike Hunter on 27 Jan 2010 19:26
Actually when you ever catch up you will discover SAAB and Hummer have been sold, but that has nothing to do with Toyotas massive recall and the government order to stop selling the cars involved. "dr_jeff" <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in message news:YMGdnZR_19G_WP3WnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d(a)giganews.com... > Mike Hunter wrote: >> GM stopped production of the Fiero years ago and not longer makes >> Pontiac. GM today is comprised of Chevrolet, Buick, Cadillac and GMC > > And, GM Daewoo, Holden, Opel, Vauxhall and Wuling, Saab, Saturn and > Hummer. Of course, the last three brands will be closed down or sold. > > Jeff > >> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >> news:pan.2010.01.26.23.00.55.736541(a)e86.GTS... >>> On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 19:31:35 -0800, john wrote: >>> >>>> "Toyota Motor Corp. said today it would halt production at five North >>>> American plants and order dealers to stop selling eight models recalled >>>> last week over concerns with sticking accelerator pedals." >>>> >>>> From The Detroit News: >>>> http://apps.detnews.com/apps/blogs/danielhowesblog/index.php?blogid=350#ixzz0dmQAmB7B >>> Instead of 'slowing down' when an error is realized, Toyota stops >>> production. >>> >>> Gm would do well to learn from this. Burning Fieros, CV joints wleded to >>> make a FWD engine a RWD engine, etc. >>> >>> >>> >> |