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From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 17 Feb 2010 20:25 On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 22:53:04 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote: > On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 00:16:08 -0500, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote: > >>On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 20:42:47 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote: >> >>>>hey, if i'd not bothered to check, and if i didn't have the integrity >>>>to admit that, maybe i'd make such an underinformed comment too. >>> >>> >>> For every warranty repair needed on a Toyota, how many warranty repairs >>> do you think are needed on a Ford? >> >>You have got to be kidding... >> >>I'd bet it's at least 3 to 1. >> >> >> > Go read the JD power data and covert it to defects per CAR, not per 100 > cars, and you'll see just how little actual difference there is between > any of the cars in the top half of the food chain. Are these the "Initial Quality Surveys"? Any new car I get better pass one of these, because they're conducted within three months of buying a car. If a car can't pass one of these in 90 days, the automaker needs to go out of business. But, the governemt shored up GM, didn't they?
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 17 Feb 2010 20:26 On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:40:45 -0600, Steve wrote: > Hachiroku ハチロク wrote: >> On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 20:42:47 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote: >> >>>> hey, if i'd not bothered to check, and if i didn't have the integrity >>>> to admit that, maybe i'd make such an underinformed comment too. >>> >>> For every warranty repair needed on a Toyota, how many warranty repairs >>> do you think are needed on a Ford? >> >> You have got to be kidding... >> >> I'd bet it's at least 3 to 1. > > I'd say thats about right. 3 Toy repairs for every 1 Ford repair. Sure Whatever you say. Putz.
From: Ashton Crusher on 18 Feb 2010 00:33 On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 07:14:16 -0800, jim beam <me(a)privacy.net> wrote: >On 02/16/2010 09:53 PM, Ashton Crusher wrote: >> On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 00:16:08 -0500, Hachiroku ????<Trueno(a)e86.GTS> >> wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 20:42:47 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote: >>> >>>>> hey, if i'd not bothered to check, and if i didn't have the integrity to >>>>> admit that, maybe i'd make such an underinformed comment too. >>>> >>>> >>>> For every warranty repair needed on a Toyota, how many warranty repairs do >>>> you think are needed on a Ford? >>> >>> You have got to be kidding... >>> >>> I'd bet it's at least 3 to 1. >>> >>> >> >> Go read the JD power data and covert it to defects per CAR, not per >> 100 cars, and you'll see just how little actual difference there is >> between any of the cars in the top half of the food chain. > >durng the first few months of the vehicle's life - the bit they survey. > if you keep a vehicle longer than that, you'll see a whole different >reality. especially if you go to a junkyard and see all the 10 year old >domestics lined up. You need to give up the bottle.
From: jim beam on 18 Feb 2010 00:41 On 02/17/2010 09:33 PM, Ashton Crusher wrote: > On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 07:14:16 -0800, jim beam<me(a)privacy.net> wrote: > >> On 02/16/2010 09:53 PM, Ashton Crusher wrote: >>> On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 00:16:08 -0500, Hachiroku ????<Trueno(a)e86.GTS> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 20:42:47 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote: >>>> >>>>>> hey, if i'd not bothered to check, and if i didn't have the integrity to >>>>>> admit that, maybe i'd make such an underinformed comment too. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> For every warranty repair needed on a Toyota, how many warranty repairs do >>>>> you think are needed on a Ford? >>>> >>>> You have got to be kidding... >>>> >>>> I'd bet it's at least 3 to 1. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Go read the JD power data and covert it to defects per CAR, not per >>> 100 cars, and you'll see just how little actual difference there is >>> between any of the cars in the top half of the food chain. >> >> durng the first few months of the vehicle's life - the bit they survey. >> if you keep a vehicle longer than that, you'll see a whole different >> reality. especially if you go to a junkyard and see all the 10 year old >> domestics lined up. > > > You need to give up the bottle. the bottle marked "reality" that makes me call a spade a spade? you need to give up the bottle marked "self delusion is indistinguishable from gullibility". -- nomina rutrum rutrum
From: Toyota on 18 Feb 2010 02:13
On Feb 11, 6:29 pm, john <johngd...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > Yoshi Inaba sounds like a clairvoyant. ;) I wonder if there will be > charges and arrests in the Toyota case as the Japanese government did > in the Mitsubishi case. > > "For years, warning signs have clashed with its touted high standards > > Five years ago, Yoshi Inaba, then president of Toyota Motor Corp.'s > U.S. sales operations, disclosed his biggest fear. It was that > someday, some flaw in Toyota vehicles might go undetected and cause > injuries, or worse, to the company's customers. > > Inaba was perhaps thinking of a huge scandal that had just engulfed > Mitsubishi Motors Corp., a smaller Japanese carmaker accused of > covering up defects for years. Top Mitsubishi executives, including > its former president, had been arrested and charged." > > From The Detroit News:http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20100211/OPINION01/2110340/1148/au... Is your vehicle involved? 2005-2010 Avalon 2009-2010 RAV4 2007-2010 Camry 2008-2010 Sequoia 2009-2010 Corolla 2005-2010 Tacoma 2008-2010 Highlander 2007-2010 Tundra 2009-2010 Matrix 2009-2010 VENZA 2004-2009 Prius 2010 Lexus HS 250h 2007-2010 Lexus ES350 2006-2010 Lexus IS250s 2006-2010 Lexus IS350s Get the Latest Facts at http://www.ToyotaBrakeRecall.org |