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From: Ashton Crusher on 13 Feb 2010 19:21 On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 08:04:22 -0600, dbu'' <nospam(a)nobama.com.invalid> wrote: >In article ><b11522a6-0228-4f0e-b59d-a22b55130eb3(a)k36g2000prb.googlegroups.com>, > john <johngdole(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> Yoshi Inaba sounds like a clairvoyant. ;) I wonder if there will be >> charges and arrests in the Toyota case as the Japanese government did >> in the Mitsubishi case. >> >> "For years, warning signs have clashed with its touted high standards >> >> Five years ago, Yoshi Inaba, then president of Toyota Motor Corp.'s >> U.S. sales operations, disclosed his biggest fear. It was that >> someday, some flaw in Toyota vehicles might go undetected and cause >> injuries, or worse, to the company's customers. >> >> Inaba was perhaps thinking of a huge scandal that had just engulfed >> Mitsubishi Motors Corp., a smaller Japanese carmaker accused of >> covering up defects for years. Top Mitsubishi executives, including >> its former president, had been arrested and charged." >> >> From The Detroit News: >> http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20100211/OPINION01/2110340/1148/auto01/Toyo >> ta-loses-its-way#ixzz0fHiJSPza > >My two Toyota's were the best cars I've ever owned and I've owned quite >a few big three plus VW in my 67 years. I will buy another another >Toyota without question. I had one Toyota and one datun and they were both junk. My sister in law had a Datsun and it was junk. They just don't hold up under hard driving. They are made for little old ladies who will never push them.
From: Clive on 13 Feb 2010 19:27 In message <3fgen5l0u09649sb6vjs21h4nudea0mtcd(a)4ax.com>, Ashton Crusher <demi(a)moore.net> writes >>> Inaba was perhaps thinking of a huge scandal that had just engulfed >>> Mitsubishi Motors Corp., a smaller Japanese carmaker accused of >>> covering up defects for years. Top Mitsubishi executives, including >>> its former president, had been arrested and charged." I wouldn't call Mitsubishi small, it might not make a lot of cars (though I do remember it's board of directors being hauled before a court for knowingly allowing new cars to be sold with faulty brakes) but they have fingers in lots of pies. -- Clive
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 14 Feb 2010 02:02 On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 17:21:03 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote: > On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 08:04:22 -0600, dbu'' <nospam(a)nobama.com.invalid> > wrote: > >>In article >><b11522a6-0228-4f0e-b59d-a22b55130eb3(a)k36g2000prb.googlegroups.com>, >> john <johngdole(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Yoshi Inaba sounds like a clairvoyant. ;) I wonder if there will be >>> charges and arrests in the Toyota case as the Japanese government did >>> in the Mitsubishi case. >>> >>> "For years, warning signs have clashed with its touted high standards >>> >>> Five years ago, Yoshi Inaba, then president of Toyota Motor Corp.'s >>> U.S. sales operations, disclosed his biggest fear. It was that someday, >>> some flaw in Toyota vehicles might go undetected and cause injuries, or >>> worse, to the company's customers. >>> >>> Inaba was perhaps thinking of a huge scandal that had just engulfed >>> Mitsubishi Motors Corp., a smaller Japanese carmaker accused of >>> covering up defects for years. Top Mitsubishi executives, including its >>> former president, had been arrested and charged." >>> >>> From The Detroit News: >>> http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20100211/OPINION01/2110340/1148/auto01/Toyo >>> ta-loses-its-way#ixzz0fHiJSPza >> >>My two Toyota's were the best cars I've ever owned and I've owned quite a >>few big three plus VW in my 67 years. I will buy another another Toyota >>without question. > > I had one Toyota and one datun and they were both junk. My sister in law > had a Datsun and it was junk. They just don't hold up under hard driving. > They are made for little old ladies who will never push them. Bullshit. Toyotas love to be driven hard. You can't equate "hard driving" with "total abuse".
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 14 Feb 2010 02:18 On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 17:52:15 -0600, Ed Maier wrote: > On 2/13/2010 1:44 PM, Jeff Strickland wrote: >> "Ed Maier"<evmaiertakethisout(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:hl5fd0$osp$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>> On 2/12/2010 8:24 PM, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B wrote: >>>> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:49:35 -0600, Ed Maier wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2/12/2010 6:30 PM, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B wrote: >>>>>> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:09:30 -0600, Ed Maier wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Same here. My wife and I have owned a '52 Plymouth, '60 VW Bug, '62 >>>>>>> Corvair Monza, >>>>>> >>>>>> You, uh, don't still have this, do you...? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> God no. >>>>> >>>>> Ed Maier >>>> >>>> Why?!? Those were cool little cars. I had a '66, three on >>>> the...er...yeah. >>>> >>>> It's problems were more than my technical capabilities at the time. >>>> >>>> However, if I had it now, I would have one cool Corvair. (I live about >>>> 10 miles from the place in Mass that remanufactures Corvair parts...) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> My '62 Monza had a tendency to "float" at speeds above 65 MPH. Seemed >>> like there was a lag in steering response at that speed, too. Never did >>> find out what caused it. Not sure anyone else had the same problem, but >>> it was very disconcerting. >>> >>> >> You have to wait for the car to land before the steering works again ... >> >> > Well obviously that was the steering lag thing, but the "float" had me > mystified. Munzi in an earlier post mentioned an air dam install fix, but > I traded it in on a Mustang to get it out of my hair. I had tentatively > written it off because I was using tires from different manufacturers on > front and rear. (In any event, I was just guessing, and I was ready for a > new car anyhow.) > > Ed Maier That didn't help! And the skinny tires of the day sure weren't condusive to more 'spritied' driving, even Tiger Paws!
From: Clive on 14 Feb 2010 05:18
In message <hl876m$mvm$4(a)news.eternal-september.org>, =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> writes >>I had one Toyota and one datun and they were both junk. My sister in law >> had a Datsun and it was junk. They just don't hold up under hard driving. >> They are made for little old ladies who will never push them. The name Datsun changed to Nissan hear over 25 years ago. -- Clive |