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From: john on 11 Feb 2010 21:29 Yoshi Inaba sounds like a clairvoyant. ;) I wonder if there will be charges and arrests in the Toyota case as the Japanese government did in the Mitsubishi case. "For years, warning signs have clashed with its touted high standards Five years ago, Yoshi Inaba, then president of Toyota Motor Corp.'s U.S. sales operations, disclosed his biggest fear. It was that someday, some flaw in Toyota vehicles might go undetected and cause injuries, or worse, to the company's customers. Inaba was perhaps thinking of a huge scandal that had just engulfed Mitsubishi Motors Corp., a smaller Japanese carmaker accused of covering up defects for years. Top Mitsubishi executives, including its former president, had been arrested and charged." From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20100211/OPINION01/2110340/1148/auto01/Toyota-loses-its-way#ixzz0fHiJSPza
From: Wayne on 12 Feb 2010 11:15 "dbu''" <nospam(a)nobama.com.invalid> wrote in message news:Mq-dnXvUWNF6wujWnZ2dnUVZ_gRi4p2d(a)giganews.com... > In article > <b11522a6-0228-4f0e-b59d-a22b55130eb3(a)k36g2000prb.googlegroups.com>, > john <johngdole(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> Yoshi Inaba sounds like a clairvoyant. ;) I wonder if there will be >> charges and arrests in the Toyota case as the Japanese government did >> in the Mitsubishi case. >> >> "For years, warning signs have clashed with its touted high standards >> >> Five years ago, Yoshi Inaba, then president of Toyota Motor Corp.'s >> U.S. sales operations, disclosed his biggest fear. It was that >> someday, some flaw in Toyota vehicles might go undetected and cause >> injuries, or worse, to the company's customers. >> >> Inaba was perhaps thinking of a huge scandal that had just engulfed >> Mitsubishi Motors Corp., a smaller Japanese carmaker accused of >> covering up defects for years. Top Mitsubishi executives, including >> its former president, had been arrested and charged." >> >> From The Detroit News: >> http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20100211/OPINION01/2110340/1148/auto01/Toyo >> ta-loses-its-way#ixzz0fHiJSPza > > My two Toyota's were the best cars I've ever owned and I've owned quite > a few big three plus VW in my 67 years. I will buy another another > Toyota without question. > -- > Yep me too. After all, I have much more confidence in hardware built by Toyota, and ECU software written by Toyota than if it were built/written by Microsoft. (or GM)
From: Vic Smith on 12 Feb 2010 11:21 On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 08:15:27 -0800, "Wayne" <mygarbagecan(a)verizon.net> wrote: > >"dbu''" <nospam(a)nobama.com.invalid> wrote in message >news:Mq-dnXvUWNF6wujWnZ2dnUVZ_gRi4p2d(a)giganews.com... >> In article >> <b11522a6-0228-4f0e-b59d-a22b55130eb3(a)k36g2000prb.googlegroups.com>, >> john <johngdole(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Yoshi Inaba sounds like a clairvoyant. ;) I wonder if there will be >>> charges and arrests in the Toyota case as the Japanese government did >>> in the Mitsubishi case. >>> >>> "For years, warning signs have clashed with its touted high standards >>> >>> Five years ago, Yoshi Inaba, then president of Toyota Motor Corp.'s >>> U.S. sales operations, disclosed his biggest fear. It was that >>> someday, some flaw in Toyota vehicles might go undetected and cause >>> injuries, or worse, to the company's customers. >>> >>> Inaba was perhaps thinking of a huge scandal that had just engulfed >>> Mitsubishi Motors Corp., a smaller Japanese carmaker accused of >>> covering up defects for years. Top Mitsubishi executives, including >>> its former president, had been arrested and charged." >>> >>> From The Detroit News: >>> http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20100211/OPINION01/2110340/1148/auto01/Toyo >>> ta-loses-its-way#ixzz0fHiJSPza >> >> My two Toyota's were the best cars I've ever owned and I've owned quite >> a few big three plus VW in my 67 years. I will buy another another >> Toyota without question. >> -- >> >Yep me too. After all, I have much more confidence in hardware built by >Toyota, and ECU software written by Toyota than if it were built/written by >Microsoft. (or GM) > And I like La Villa thin crust, cheese and sausage. It's harder finding good thin crust than a good car. --Vic
From: Mike Hunter on 12 Feb 2010 11:26 (Cross postings deleted, automatically) You are entitled to you opinion but I suspect the problem will be found in the micro processor, rather than in their mechanicals, since there are news reports of Toyotas GAINING speed and Toyotas still having problems after the fix was completed. "Wayne" <mygarbagecan(a)verizon.net> wrote in message news:hl3ur0$734$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > "dbu''" <nospam(a)nobama.com.invalid> wrote in message > news:Mq-dnXvUWNF6wujWnZ2dnUVZ_gRi4p2d(a)giganews.com... >> In article >> <b11522a6-0228-4f0e-b59d-a22b55130eb3(a)k36g2000prb.googlegroups.com>, >> john <johngdole(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Yoshi Inaba sounds like a clairvoyant. ;) I wonder if there will be >>> charges and arrests in the Toyota case as the Japanese government did >>> in the Mitsubishi case. >>> >>> "For years, warning signs have clashed with its touted high standards >>> >>> Five years ago, Yoshi Inaba, then president of Toyota Motor Corp.'s >>> U.S. sales operations, disclosed his biggest fear. It was that >>> someday, some flaw in Toyota vehicles might go undetected and cause >>> injuries, or worse, to the company's customers. >>> >>> Inaba was perhaps thinking of a huge scandal that had just engulfed >>> Mitsubishi Motors Corp., a smaller Japanese carmaker accused of >>> covering up defects for years. Top Mitsubishi executives, including >>> its former president, had been arrested and charged." >>> >>> From The Detroit News: >>> http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20100211/OPINION01/2110340/1148/auto01/Toyo >>> ta-loses-its-way#ixzz0fHiJSPza >> >> My two Toyota's were the best cars I've ever owned and I've owned quite >> a few big three plus VW in my 67 years. I will buy another another >> Toyota without question. >> -- >> > Yep me too. After all, I have much more confidence in hardware built by > Toyota, and ECU software written by Toyota than if it were built/written > by Microsoft. (or GM) >
From: Ed Maier on 12 Feb 2010 13:09
On 2/12/2010 8:04 AM, dbu'' wrote: > In article > <b11522a6-0228-4f0e-b59d-a22b55130eb3(a)k36g2000prb.googlegroups.com>, > john<johngdole(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> Yoshi Inaba sounds like a clairvoyant. ;) I wonder if there will be >> charges and arrests in the Toyota case as the Japanese government did >> in the Mitsubishi case. >> >> "For years, warning signs have clashed with its touted high standards >> >> Five years ago, Yoshi Inaba, then president of Toyota Motor Corp.'s >> U.S. sales operations, disclosed his biggest fear. It was that >> someday, some flaw in Toyota vehicles might go undetected and cause >> injuries, or worse, to the company's customers. >> >> Inaba was perhaps thinking of a huge scandal that had just engulfed >> Mitsubishi Motors Corp., a smaller Japanese carmaker accused of >> covering up defects for years. Top Mitsubishi executives, including >> its former president, had been arrested and charged." >> >> From The Detroit News: >> http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20100211/OPINION01/2110340/1148/auto01/Toyo >> ta-loses-its-way#ixzz0fHiJSPza > > My two Toyota's were the best cars I've ever owned and I've owned quite > a few big three plus VW in my 67 years. I will buy another another > Toyota without question. Same here. My wife and I have owned a '52 Plymouth, '60 VW Bug, '62 Corvair Monza, '65 Mustang conv. 289 CID 4 speed, '69 Grand Torino, '74 Gremlin, '79 Pinto Cruising Wagon, '84(?) Bronco II, '89(?) Saturn, '91 Camry, '?? T-Bird, '99 Mazda Tribute, '2004 4Runner, 2004 Highlander, and a 2008 Avalon. Couple of others in that mix I don't remember. The Toyotas were the least troublesome by far. Ed Maier |