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From: RM v2.0 on 22 Jun 2010 15:05 "Gray Ghost" <grey_ghost471-newsgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:Xns9D9F7E14BAECFWereofftoseethewizrd(a)216.196.97.142... > Lookout <mrLookout(a)yahoo.com> wrote in > news:40h126dna4msgl8pv657u58s7lad7afav7(a)4ax.com: > >> On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 23:26:03 -0400, "Lord Gow 333, not a White House >> approved poster!" <lordgow(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>> >>>"Lookout" <mrLookout(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>news:v9bt161rv7phf2ko818p57lrlfh69n5i32(a)4ax.com... >>>> On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 15:49:53 -0500, Fred Hall <fkhall(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 12:04:28 -0400, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> >>>>>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 01:08:59 -0500, Fred Hall wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>>And? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>She's NOT the President. OK, so a lot of Americans want BP to stop >>>>>>>>the mess, but what has Obungler done? Eaten seafood? "it >>>>>>>>was...delicious." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>A man of action. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> He got the fuckers to pony up several billion dollars, eh? >>>>>> Therein lies the problem. The "fuckers" will simply jack up pump prices and the innocent public becomes the "fuckers". Corporations rarely get hurt by fines and never pay taxes. The cost is simply passed on and we pay out of our pocket.
From: pandora on 22 Jun 2010 19:23 On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 00:31:12 -0400, Deucalion wrote: > On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 21:14:51 -0700 (PDT), edspyhill01 > <edspyhill01(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>On Jun 22, 12:08 am, Deucalion <some...(a)nowhere.net> wrote: >>> On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 15:29:12 -0400, Hachiroku ???? <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 13:52:14 -0500, Jeff M wrote: >>> >>> >> On 6/18/2010 1:47 AM, edspyhill01 wrote: >>> >>> On Jun 17, 6:38 am, >>> >>> Cliff<Clhuprichguessw...(a)aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote: >>> >>>> http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2010/06/ yglesias... >>> >>>> "O'Reilly Pwns Palin" >>> >>> >>>> <See video at link> >>> >>> >>>> [ >>> >>>> ..... >>> >>>> A moment of truth on the Factor: >>> >>>> [ >>> >>> >>>> First, [O'Reilly] challenged Palin by saying, 49% of Americans >>> >>>> still want BP to run the show and only 45% want the government to >>> >>>> run the show. >>> >>> >>>> If you stop the video at about the 3:00 point, you can see the >>> >>>> look of dismay on Palin s face, followed by nervousness, moments >>> >>>> after he said that, as she must have realized this was not going >>> >>>> to be the kind of cakewalk she has probably come to expect on Fox >>> >>>> News. >>> >>> >>>> O Reilly went on to ask, What is your solution, here, Governor? >>> >>>> What would you do tonight tell the nation tonight, what you would >>> >>>> have said, the main point in that speech. Go. >>> >>> >>>> Palin obviously had no idea. Stopping the gusher, she said. That >>> >>>> s the number one priority of the nation. >>> >>> >>>> But nobody knows how to do it, O Reilly countered. >>> >>> >>>> Well, we haven t had the assurance by the president that that has >>> >>>> been his top priority. Her voice rose with more condescension, as >>> >>>> she continued to evade the question and, instead, went on to >>> >>>> accuse the president of making cap and tax his greater priority >>> >>>> and using this crisis to increase the cost of energy. >>> >>> >>>> Are you telling me that you don t think the president s top >>> >>>> priority is stopping that leak? Is that what you re telling me? O >>> >>>> Reilly asked, not bothering to hide his incredulity. ] >>> >>> >>>> He clearly realizes what a total farce she is - and he slowly >>> >>>> dismantles her mindless partisanship by the end of the segment. >>> >>>> Good for O'Reilly. Particularly good for exposing just how little >>> >>>> this phony knows about energy policy, her alleged expertise. ... >>> >>>> ] >>> >>> >>> Notice how consistantly the rightwingnuts ignore everything >>> >>> inconvenient? >>> >>> >> The Right wing can be defined as the triumph of ideology over >>> >> reality. They insist on believing lots of things that simply aren't >>> >> true. They ignore inconvenient facts and cannot learn from their >>> >> mistakes. >>> >>> >ROFLMAO!!!!! I want what this guy's taking! >>> >>> >If there is ANYONE who doesn't learn from mistakes, it's Democrats. >>> >Every time they get in office they try the same things over and over >>> >again; a Republican comes in and rights things, and then another >>> >Democrat comes in and screws it up. >>> >>> >Tell me: why isn't Obungler going after Immigration Reform before >>> >November? >>> >>> Because enough time hasn't passed since Bush tried immigration >>> reform???- Hide quoted text - >>> >>> - Show quoted text - >> >>Or Reagan's amnesty. > > Indeed. The last attempt and the last success at allowing line jumpers > to benefit were indeed led by Republican Presidents. And Hachi's gods apparently.
From: Oglethorpe on 22 Jun 2010 21:25 "RM v2.0" <Blah(a)spamsux.com> wrote in message news:iQ7Un.228323$pj7.38157(a)en-nntp-15.dc1.easynews.com... > > "Gray Ghost" <grey_ghost471-newsgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:Xns9D9F7E14BAECFWereofftoseethewizrd(a)216.196.97.142... >> Lookout <mrLookout(a)yahoo.com> wrote in >> news:40h126dna4msgl8pv657u58s7lad7afav7(a)4ax.com: >> >>> On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 23:26:03 -0400, "Lord Gow 333, not a White House >>> approved poster!" <lordgow(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>"Lookout" <mrLookout(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>>news:v9bt161rv7phf2ko818p57lrlfh69n5i32(a)4ax.com... >>>>> On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 15:49:53 -0500, Fred Hall <fkhall(a)gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 12:04:28 -0400, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> >>>>>>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 01:08:59 -0500, Fred Hall wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>And? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>She's NOT the President. OK, so a lot of Americans want BP to stop >>>>>>>>>the mess, but what has Obungler done? Eaten seafood? "it >>>>>>>>>was...delicious." >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>A man of action. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> He got the fuckers to pony up several billion dollars, eh? >>>>>>> > Therein lies the problem. The "fuckers" will simply jack up pump prices > and the innocent public becomes the "fuckers". Corporations rarely get > hurt by fines and never pay taxes. The cost is simply passed on and we pay > out of our pocket. > ALL COSTS OF DOING BUSINESS ARE PAID BY THE END CONSUMER. A fact liberals are incapable of learning.
From: Lookout on 22 Jun 2010 19:53 On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:25:17 -0700, "Oglethorpe" <antikerry(a)go.com> wrote: > >"RM v2.0" <Blah(a)spamsux.com> wrote in message >news:iQ7Un.228323$pj7.38157(a)en-nntp-15.dc1.easynews.com... >> >> "Gray Ghost" <grey_ghost471-newsgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:Xns9D9F7E14BAECFWereofftoseethewizrd(a)216.196.97.142... >>> Lookout <mrLookout(a)yahoo.com> wrote in >>> news:40h126dna4msgl8pv657u58s7lad7afav7(a)4ax.com: >>> >>>> On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 23:26:03 -0400, "Lord Gow 333, not a White House >>>> approved poster!" <lordgow(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>>"Lookout" <mrLookout(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>>>news:v9bt161rv7phf2ko818p57lrlfh69n5i32(a)4ax.com... >>>>>> On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 15:49:53 -0500, Fred Hall <fkhall(a)gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 12:04:28 -0400, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> >>>>>>>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 01:08:59 -0500, Fred Hall wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>And? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>She's NOT the President. OK, so a lot of Americans want BP to stop >>>>>>>>>>the mess, but what has Obungler done? Eaten seafood? "it >>>>>>>>>>was...delicious." >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>A man of action. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> He got the fuckers to pony up several billion dollars, eh? >>>>>>>> >> Therein lies the problem. The "fuckers" will simply jack up pump prices >> and the innocent public becomes the "fuckers". Corporations rarely get >> hurt by fines and never pay taxes. The cost is simply passed on and we pay >> out of our pocket. >> >ALL COSTS OF DOING BUSINESS ARE PAID BY THE END CONSUMER. A fact liberals >are incapable of learning. > So you're saying BP SHOULDN'T have to pay? Is that it?
From: Morgan Vening on 22 Jun 2010 20:10
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:25:17 -0700, "Oglethorpe" <antikerry(a)go.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>And? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>She's NOT the President. OK, so a lot of Americans want BP to stop >>>>>>>>>>the mess, but what has Obungler done? Eaten seafood? "it >>>>>>>>>>was...delicious." >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>A man of action. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> He got the fuckers to pony up several billion dollars, eh? >>>>>>>> >> Therein lies the problem. The "fuckers" will simply jack up pump prices >> and the innocent public becomes the "fuckers". Corporations rarely get >> hurt by fines and never pay taxes. The cost is simply passed on and we pay >> out of our pocket. >> >ALL COSTS OF DOING BUSINESS ARE PAID BY THE END CONSUMER. A fact liberals >are incapable of learning. In a monopoly or oligopoly, yes. In a true "free market", not so much. In such a thing, BP would have to do one of three things. 1) Increase prices, driving down market share. 2) Absorb costs, affecting profit margins. 3) Use marketing strategies to increase market share, so quantity of sale at the static price compensates for lack of dollar per volume profit. But a true "free market" is a jabberwocky. Even when regulation and restriction is placed on it, forces outside the market will always come into play (legislative, legal, criminal), as greed and ego knowing no bounds, will always work outside it. Without regulation and restriction, these other measures will drive it further from a true "free market". Something conservatives seem incapable of learning. BP will likely use option 1, increasing price, with the other oil companies doing the same, as it'll increase profit margins, and with no real way for a new vendor to enter the market, there appears to be an oligarchy at both the source (OPEC), and the retail. Morgan Vening |