From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 15:49:53 -0500, Fred Hall wrote:

> On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 12:04:28 -0400, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 01:08:59 -0500, Fred Hall wrote:
>>
>>>>And?
>>>>
>>>>She's NOT the President. OK, so a lot of Americans want BP to stop the
>>>>mess, but what has Obungler done? Eaten seafood? "it was...delicious."
>>>>
>>>>A man of action.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> He got the fuckers to pony up several billion dollars, eh?
>>
>>Oh boy. He called out the lawyers.
>>
>>The Army Corps of Engineers dragged their heels on the state's requests
>>to build barrier reefs because they needed to do an "Environmental Impact
>>Study" (HUH? Concrete is worse than OIL?!?!?!
>>
>>"We" turned away offers for help from countries that had the technology
>>to clean up about 75% of the oil very early on. Because of a ~1920 law
>>provided to protect unions.
>>
>>
>>> Poor Hachoo, blinded by the light
>>
>>Better than being baffled by the BULLSHIT.
>>
>>
> I've heard you have great experience with being baffled by the bullshit.
>
> Here, go educate yourself, Hachoo:
> http://www.lowgenius.net/post/2008/09/30/I-need-your-help.aspx
>

<boggle>
Huh?

Whew. Don't like losing an arguement, do you?

Now, want to try with a sentient answer, or just more brainless bullshit,
meathead?

From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 19:07:48 -0500, Lookout wrote:

> On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 15:49:53 -0500, Fred Hall <fkhall(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 12:04:28 -0400, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 01:08:59 -0500, Fred Hall wrote:
>>>
>>>>>And?
>>>>>
>>>>>She's NOT the President. OK, so a lot of Americans want BP to stop
>>>>>the mess, but what has Obungler done? Eaten seafood? "it
>>>>>was...delicious."
>>>>>
>>>>>A man of action.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> He got the fuckers to pony up several billion dollars, eh?
>>>
>>>Oh boy. He called out the lawyers.
>>>
>>>The Army Corps of Engineers dragged their heels on the state's requests
>>>to build barrier reefs because they needed to do an "Environmental
>>>Impact Study" (HUH? Concrete is worse than OIL?!?!?!
>>>
>>>"We" turned away offers for help from countries that had the technology
>>>to clean up about 75% of the oil very early on. Because of a ~1920 law
>>>provided to protect unions.
>
> Cite?
> Until I see proof it's not true.

Oh, sorry. Your President just CAN'T be wrong, can he?

http://www.eagleworldnews.com/2010/06/15/obama-refuses-dutch-help-for-gulf-oil-crisis/

http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-the-real-reason-america-refused-international-help-on-the-oil-spill-2010-6

Even the Canadians know more about it then you seem to:

Just three days after BP's oil rig went down, the Dutch government offered
to provide ships with oil-skimming booms and a plan to build (within three
weeks) a 96.5-kilometre-long sand barrier (i. e. dike) that would protect
the sensitive marshland on the Louisiana coastline. No one knows how to
protect a coastline like the Dutch but, according to the Netherland's
Consul General in Houston, they received a "thanks, but no thanks" from
Obama's administration.

Read more:
http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/Obama+favours+union+over+Gulf+environment/3168731/story.html#ixzz0rRmVUpKR


The Obama Administration recently used red tape to force Louisiana to stop
using 16 barges that were cleaning up the Gulf of Mexico by sucking
thousands of gallons of oil out of Louisiana's oil-soaked waters.

Earlier, it delayed the clean-up of the Gulf of Mexico by months, by
blocking foreign crews from operating sophisticated clean-up vessels. The
Jones Act bans foreign vessels and crews from working in U.S. waters, but
it gives the president the authority to completely waive that ban if he
wishes. Obama refused to lift the ban, even though American shippers who
generally support the ban said they wouldn't object to lifting it to
fight the spill. As a result of the ban, the U.S. has rejected a lot of
foreign aid from counties with expertise in fighting oil spills, and
accepted only a small amount of foreign equipment to fight the spill.

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/obama-blocks-louisiana-foreign-allies-from-oil-spill-clean-up

Truth is out there, but the Lame stream media can't tell you because it
would make Obungler look as bad as Bush.

Fact is, he's worse.


From: Cliff on
On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 12:05:31 -0400, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote:

>On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 08:37:36 -0400, Cliff wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 01:50:16 -0400, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote:
>>
>>>Franklin County, Mass. Another town (this makes three now) has voiced
>>>they do NOT want a wind farm in their community.
>>
>> How about some nice oil?
>
>What does that have to do with refusing windfarms, k00k?

They have oil on the Gulf it seems.

>You ever really say anything, or are you just another Empty Suit like the
>Pres?

Found those "WMDs" yet?
--
Cliff
From: Cliff on
On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 09:36:28 -0700, "Bill Noble" <nobody(a)nowhere.invalid> wrote:

>
>
>"Cliff" <Clhuprichguesswhat(a)aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message
>news:9t2s16hnskr2oq1cii9osbuk6tb5c8ccip(a)4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 16:22:57 -0700, Winston_Smith <not_real(a)bogus.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> IMHO it's bestter to clean thing up *after* you stop adding to the
>> messes.
>> Cheaper too.
>>
>> From the shore you cannot see the skimmers or the big oil patches.
>>
>
>if you guys who spend hours screaming at each other would spend just 1
>minute per day not wasting energy, you would contribute to a solution. If
>you spent another minute per day looking at how you could do things better,
>you would be actively engaged in a patriotic activity.

I don't see anybody from Faux OR the RNC at the Gulf dabbing up the
oil with tissues. Do you?

> If you (and most of
>you are knowledgeable and intelligent) were to teach neighbors and friends
>how to use less oil, to be more efficient in electrical power usage, to
>conserve, this would escalate and we might have a nation again.
>
>But if you just sit here (or there) and scream at each other and try to
>undermine political dialog, you are in fact traitors to the founding
>principles of this nation.

Which are?

>If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the precipitate. Which
>are you?
--
Cliff
From: Cliff on
On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 22:29:42 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunnerasch(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>You guys would pay for free ice cream too.

Like all the "free" medical care you demanded to save your life?
--
Cliff