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From: pandora on 21 Jun 2010 20:20 On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 07:46:48 -0400, Cliff wrote: > On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 19:49:06 -0700 (PDT), edspyhill01 > <edspyhill01(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>Another gun nut. You know targets don't shoot back. > > Repost time <g>. > > [ > This is supposedly a true story from a recent Defence Science Lectures > Series, as related by the head of the Australian DSTO's Land > Operations/Simulation division. > > > They've been working on some really nifty virtual reality simulators, > the case in point being to incorporate Armed Reconnaissance Helicopters > into exercises (from the data fusion point of view). Most of the people > they employ on this sort of thing are ex- (or future) computer game > programmers. > > > Anyway, as part of the reality parameters, they include things like > trees and animals. For the Australian simulation they included > kangaroos. In particular, they had to model kangaroo movements > andreactions to helicopters (since hordes of disturbed kangaroos might > well give away a helicopter's position). > > > Being good programmers, they just stole some code (which was originally > used to model infantry detachments reactions under the same stimuli), > and changed the mapped icon, the speed parameters, etc. The first time > they've gone to demonstrate this to some visiting Americans, the hotshot > pilots have decided to get "down and dirty" with the virtual kangaroos. > > > So, they buzz them, and watch them scatter. The visiting Americans nod > appreciatively... then gape as the kangaroos duck around a hill, and > launch about two dozen Stinger missiles at the hapless helicopter. > > > Programmers look rather embarrassed at forgetting to remove *that* part > of the infantry coding... and Americans leave muttering comments about > not wanting to mess with the Aussie wildlife... > > > As an addendum, simulator pilots from that point onwards avoided > kangaroos like the plague, just like they were meant to do in the first > place... > ] > > > The 'Roos shoot back ..... > > > HTH Hehehehehe. Love it!
From: edspyhill01 on 22 Jun 2010 00:14 On Jun 22, 12:08 am, Deucalion <some...(a)nowhere.net> wrote: > On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 15:29:12 -0400, Hachiroku ???? <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> > wrote: > > > > > > >On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 13:52:14 -0500, Jeff M wrote: > > >> On 6/18/2010 1:47 AM, edspyhill01 wrote: > >>> On Jun 17, 6:38 am, Cliff<Clhuprichguessw...(a)aoltmovetheperiodc.om> > >>> wrote: > >>>> http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2010/06/yglesias... > >>>> "O'Reilly Pwns Palin" > > >>>> <See video at link> > > >>>> [ > >>>> ..... > >>>> A moment of truth on the Factor: > >>>> [ > > >>>> First, [O'Reilly] challenged Palin by saying, 49% of Americans still > >>>> want BP to run the show and only 45% want the government to run the > >>>> show. > > >>>> If you stop the video at about the 3:00 point, you can see the look of > >>>> dismay on Palin s face, followed by nervousness, moments after he > >>>> said that, as she must have realized this was not going to be the kind > >>>> of cakewalk she has probably come to expect on Fox News. > > >>>> O Reilly went on to ask, What is your solution, here, Governor? > >>>> What would you do tonight tell the nation tonight, what you would > >>>> have said, the main point in that speech. Go. > > >>>> Palin obviously had no idea. Stopping the gusher, she said. > >>>> That s the number one priority of the nation. > > >>>> But nobody knows how to do it, O Reilly countered. > > >>>> Well, we haven t had the assurance by the president that that has > >>>> been his top priority. Her voice rose with more condescension, as > >>>> she continued to evade the question and, instead, went on to accuse the > >>>> president of making cap and tax his greater priority and using > >>>> this crisis to increase the cost of energy. > > >>>> Are you telling me that you don t think the president s top > >>>> priority is stopping that leak? Is that what you re telling me? > >>>> O Reilly asked, not bothering to hide his incredulity. > >>>> ] > > >>>> He clearly realizes what a total farce she is - and he slowly > >>>> dismantles her mindless partisanship by the end of the segment. Good > >>>> for O'Reilly. Particularly good for exposing just how little this phony > >>>> knows about energy policy, her alleged expertise. > >>>> ... > >>>> ] > > >>> Notice how consistantly the rightwingnuts ignore everything > >>> inconvenient? > > >> The Right wing can be defined as the triumph of ideology over reality. > >> They insist on believing lots of things that simply aren't true. They > >> ignore inconvenient facts and cannot learn from their mistakes. > > >ROFLMAO!!!!! I want what this guy's taking! > > >If there is ANYONE who doesn't learn from mistakes, it's Democrats. Every > >time they get in office they try the same things over and over again; a > >Republican comes in and rights things, and then another Democrat comes in > >and screws it up. > > >Tell me: why isn't Obungler going after Immigration Reform before November? > > Because enough time hasn't passed since Bush tried immigration > reform???- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Or Reagan's amnesty.
From: Cliff on 22 Jun 2010 07:01 On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 11:07:39 -0400, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote: >On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 06:06:48 -0400, Cliff wrote: > >> On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 12:05:31 -0400, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote: >> >>>On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 08:37:36 -0400, Cliff wrote: >>> >>>> On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 01:50:16 -0400, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>Franklin County, Mass. Another town (this makes three now) has voiced >>>>>they do NOT want a wind farm in their community. >>>> >>>> How about some nice oil? >>> >>>What does that have to do with refusing windfarms, k00k? >> >> They have oil on the Gulf it seems. >> >>>You ever really say anything, or are you just another Empty Suit like the >>>Pres? >> >> Found those "WMDs" yet? > >Yup. Empty Suit, with a matching head. Well <tapping foot>, show them to us or be caught out a lying winger. Found those "WMDs" yet? -- Cliff
From: Cliff on 22 Jun 2010 07:02 On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 13:52:14 -0500, Jeff M <NoSpam(a)NoThanks.org> wrote: >On 6/18/2010 1:47 AM, edspyhill01 wrote: >> On Jun 17, 6:38 am, Cliff<Clhuprichguessw...(a)aoltmovetheperiodc.om> >> wrote: >>> http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2010/06/yglesias... >>> "O'Reilly Pwns Palin" >>> >>> <See video at link> >>> >>> [ >>> ..... >>> A moment of truth on the Factor: >>> [ >>> >>> First, [O'Reilly] challenged Palin by saying, �49% of Americans still want BP to >>> run the show and only 45% want the government to run the show.� >>> >>> If you stop the video at about the 3:00 point, you can see the look of dismay on >>> Palin�s face, followed by nervousness, moments after he said that, as she must >>> have realized this was not going to be the kind of cakewalk she has probably >>> come to expect on Fox News. >>> >>> O�Reilly went on to ask, �What is your solution, here, Governor? What would you >>> do tonight � tell the nation tonight, what you would have said, the main point >>> in that speech. Go.� >>> >>> Palin obviously had no idea. �Stopping the gusher,� she said. �That�s the number >>> one priority of the nation.� >>> >>> �But nobody knows how to do it,� O�Reilly countered. >>> >>> �Well, we haven�t had the assurance by the president that that has been his top >>> priority.� Her voice rose with more condescension, as she continued to evade the >>> question and, instead, went on to accuse the president of making �cap and tax� >>> his greater priority and �using this crisis� to increase the cost of energy.� >>> >>> �Are you telling me that you don�t think the president�s top priority is >>> stopping that leak? Is that what you�re telling me?� O�Reilly asked, not >>> bothering to hide his incredulity. >>> ] >>> >>> He clearly realizes what a total farce she is - and he slowly dismantles her >>> mindless partisanship by the end of the segment. Good for O'Reilly. Particularly >>> good for exposing just how little this phony knows about energy policy, her >>> alleged expertise. >>> ... >>> ] >> >> Notice how consistantly the rightwingnuts ignore everything >> inconvenient? > >The Right wing can be defined as the triumph of ideology over reality. >They insist on believing lots of things that simply aren't true. Perhaps they belong in fairyland. >They >ignore inconvenient facts and cannot learn from their mistakes. Ws & Ms come to mind again. -- Cliff
From: Lord Gow 333, not a White House approved poster! on 21 Jun 2010 23:26
"Lookout" <mrLookout(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:v9bt161rv7phf2ko818p57lrlfh69n5i32(a)4ax.com... > On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 15:49:53 -0500, Fred Hall <fkhall(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >>On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 12:04:28 -0400, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> >>wrote: >> >>>On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 01:08:59 -0500, Fred Hall wrote: >>> >>>>>And? >>>>> >>>>>She's NOT the President. OK, so a lot of Americans want BP to stop the >>>>>mess, but what has Obungler done? Eaten seafood? "it was...delicious." >>>>> >>>>>A man of action. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> He got the fuckers to pony up several billion dollars, eh? >>> >>>Oh boy. He called out the lawyers. >>> >>>The Army Corps of Engineers dragged their heels on the state's requests >>>to >>>build barrier reefs because they needed to do an "Environmental Impact >>>Study" (HUH? Concrete is worse than OIL?!?!?! >>> >>>"We" turned away offers for help from countries that had the technology >>>to >>>clean up about 75% of the oil very early on. Because of a ~1920 law >>>provided to protect unions. > > Cite? > Until I see proof it's not true. EXCERPTS (after a simple Google): http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704895204575320560421570360.html In the current situation, President Barack Obama has not suspended the Jones Act. Many countries such as the Netherlands, which would like to help and have expertise in cleaning oil spills, can offer only limited relief. This is significantly delaying the cleanup. http://www.examiner.com/x-7812-DC-SCOTUS-Examiner~y2010m6d14-Obama-blocked-cleanup-of-BP-oil-spill-by-Americas-allies-Failed-to-issue-needed-Jones-Act-waiver Crucial offers to help clean up BP's oil spill came "from Belgian, Dutch, and Norwegian firms that . . . possess some of the world's most advanced oil skimming ships." But the Obama administration didn't accept their help, because doing so would require it to do something past presidents have routinely done: waive rules imposed by the Jones Act, a law backed by unions "The BP clean-up effort in the Gulf of Mexico is hampered by the Jones Act. This is a piece of 1920s protectionist legislation, that requires all vessels working in U.S. waters to be American-built, and American-crewed. So" the U.S. Coast Guard "can't accept, and therefore don't ask for, the assistance of high-tech European vessels specifically designed for the task in hand." The law itself permits the president to waive these requirements, and such waivers were "granted, promptly, by the Bush administration," in the aftermath of hurricanes and other emergencies. But Obama refused to do so after the spill, notes David Warren in the Ottawa Citizen. Instead, Obama rejected a Dutch offer to help clean up the spill, noted Voice of America http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/business/steffy/7043272.html Three days after the explosion of the Deepwater Horizon in the Gulf of Mexico, the Dutch government offered to help. It was willing to provide ships outfitted with oil-skimming booms, and it proposed a plan for building sand barriers to protect sensitive marshlands. The response from the Obama administration and BP, which are coordinating the cleanup: "The embassy got a nice letter from the administration that said, 'Thanks, but no thanks,'" said Geert Visser, consul general for the Netherlands in Houston. Now, almost seven weeks later, as the oil spewing from the battered well spreads across the Gulf and soils pristine beaches and coastline, BP and our government have reconsidered. http://article.nationalreview.com/436630/keeping-up-with-the-jones-act/deroy-murdock On April 20, the Deepwater Horizon exploded, killed eleven oil-rig workers, and began gushing perhaps 60,000 barrels of petroleum into the Gulf of Mexico daily. Three days later, the Dutch offered to sail to the rescue on ships bedecked with oil-skimming booms. They also had a plan for erecting protective sand barricades. "The embassy got a nice letter from the administration that said, 'Thanks, but no thanks,'" Dutch consul general Geert Visser told the Houston Chronicle's Loren Steffy. "What's wrong with accepting outside help?" Visser wondered. "If there's a country that's experienced with building dikes and managing water, it's the Netherlands." Had those Dutch ships departed for the Gulf nearly two months ago, who knows how much oil they already would have absorbed and how many pelicans now would soar rather than soak in soapy water while wildlife experts clean their wings. After initially refusing to name them, the State Department on May 5 declared that Canada, Croatia, France, Germany, Holland, Ireland, Mexico, Norway, Romania, South Korea, Spain, Sweden, the U.K., and the U.N. had offered skimmer boats and other assets and experts to prevent the oil from destroying dolphins, crabs, oysters, and this disaster's other defenseless victims. Alas, they were turned away. "While there is no need right now that the U.S. cannot meet," stated a State Department statement, "the U.S. Coast Guard is assessing these offers of assistance to see if there will be something which we will need in the near future." Foreign Policy's Josh Rogin translated this into plain English: "The current message to foreign governments is: Thanks but no thanks, we've got it covered." Had Obama instead waived the Jones Act via executive order - as did Pres. George W. Bush three days after Hurricane Katrina - that S.O.S. would have summoned a global armada of mercy. Who knows how many fishing, shrimping, and seafood-processing jobs this would have saved? Instead, thousands of Gulf Coast workers will endure a long march from dormant docks to bustling unemployment lines. [full stories at links] Suck it. LG -- "Failure is the opportunity to begin again more intelligently." - Henry Ford |