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From: Ashton Crusher on 20 Feb 2010 16:00 On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:32:42 -0500, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote: >On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 22:21:00 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote: > >> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 19:24:55 -0500, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote: >> >>>On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 22:34:35 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote: >>> >>> >>>>>Well, I did it three times in one day, quite often. Never had a >>>>>problem. >>>>> >>>>>Then again, I made sure the ATF was correct and at the correct level. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> You are becoming a desperate troll. Get back in touch when you return >>>> to the land of the rational. Bye bye. >>> >>>I think you either just don't know how to drive, or were trying to drive >>>a Tercel like a Supra. >>> >>>Either way, you ruined a perfectly good transmission in a perfectly good >>>car all by yourself. >>> >>> >>> >> Believe what you want. It's your delusion. > >Not mine at all. You must have done something serious to be able to ruin >this transmission. > >This transmission is rated 131 hp, and is mated to an engine that produces >108. You should congratulate yuourself for being clever enough to ruin an >transmission rated 28 HP more than the engine can produce. > >The spec for 1st gear is 34MPH. You probably managed to exceed that, and >probably the 2nd gear spec, too. Ever hear of an Owner's Manual? It's in >there. > > Is English a second language for you? What part of "it was shifting itself in fully automatic mode" do you not understand? Just like every other car I've driven. I drive them all the same, it was only the Toyota that could not hold up to a few full throttle automatically controlled up shifts a week. It appears you really have little understanding of how cars work.
From: Ashton Crusher on 20 Feb 2010 16:01 On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 08:13:41 -0800, jim beam <me(a)privacy.net> wrote: >On 02/19/2010 11:39 PM, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B wrote: >> On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 17:34:40 -0800, jim beam wrote: >> >>> On 02/19/2010 04:32 PM, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B wrote: >>>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 22:21:00 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 19:24:55 -0500, Hachiroku ????<Trueno(a)e86.GTS> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 22:34:35 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well, I did it three times in one day, quite often. Never had a >>>>>>>> problem. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Then again, I made sure the ATF was correct and at the correct >>>>>>>> level. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> You are becoming a desperate troll. Get back in touch when you >>>>>>> return to the land of the rational. Bye bye. >>>>>> >>>>>> I think you either just don't know how to drive, or were trying to >>>>>> drive a Tercel like a Supra. >>>>>> >>>>>> Either way, you ruined a perfectly good transmission in a perfectly >>>>>> good car all by yourself. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Believe what you want. It's your delusion. >>>> >>>> Not mine at all. You must have done something serious to be able to ruin >>>> this transmission. >>>> >>>> This transmission is rated 131 hp, and is mated to an engine that >>>> produces 108. You should congratulate yuourself for being clever enough >>>> to ruin an transmission rated 28 HP more than the engine can produce. >>>> >>>> The spec for 1st gear is 34MPH. You probably managed to exceed that, and >>>> probably the 2nd gear spec, too. Ever hear of an Owner's Manual? It's in >>>> there. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> hold on there and step back a bit - you're "discussing his allegation as >>> if it could be anything other than complete bullshit. why? >> >> 1. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. >> 2. From his postings here, he appears to be just about enough of a >> hammerhead to actually ruin a transmission in a Tercel thinking it was >> some kind of Boy Racer car... >> >> He needs to blame Toyota for his own lack of Common Sense. Thing is, I did >> what he did with my Tercel and had no problems. And he never did respond >> to the comment I made about ATF service... >> >> >> > > >i think that before you start giving him ANY #1, you need to step back >and pay attention to your own experience first. unless there was some >other fault already present, there's no way our friend damaged a toyota >transmission simply by letting it shift at full throttle. cab drivers >full throttle shift in their toyotas all day long, all over the world, >[as of course, do many consumers] and those transmissions cope just >fine. have you noticed how many "concerned user" postings there are in >this group archive about failures? "but all i did was put my foot >down", etc? none. there are literally millions of #2's out there, but >suddenly, our friend pops up and pops off with just the kind of unproven >but inflammatory "allegation" that the other paid sociopaths are >posting. bottom line, he's making it up. You two need to get a room if you're going to sploog all over each other.
From: jim beam on 20 Feb 2010 16:17 On 02/20/2010 01:00 PM, Ashton Crusher wrote: > On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:32:42 -0500, Hachiroku ????<Trueno(a)e86.GTS> > wrote: > >> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 22:21:00 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 19:24:55 -0500, Hachiroku ????<Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 22:34:35 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>> Well, I did it three times in one day, quite often. Never had a >>>>>> problem. >>>>>> >>>>>> Then again, I made sure the ATF was correct and at the correct level. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> You are becoming a desperate troll. Get back in touch when you return >>>>> to the land of the rational. Bye bye. >>>> >>>> I think you either just don't know how to drive, or were trying to drive >>>> a Tercel like a Supra. >>>> >>>> Either way, you ruined a perfectly good transmission in a perfectly good >>>> car all by yourself. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Believe what you want. It's your delusion. >> >> Not mine at all. You must have done something serious to be able to ruin >> this transmission. >> >> This transmission is rated 131 hp, and is mated to an engine that produces >> 108. You should congratulate yuourself for being clever enough to ruin an >> transmission rated 28 HP more than the engine can produce. >> >> The spec for 1st gear is 34MPH. You probably managed to exceed that, and >> probably the 2nd gear spec, too. Ever hear of an Owner's Manual? It's in >> there. >> >> > > Is English a second language for you? What part of "it was shifting > itself in fully automatic mode" do you not understand? Just like > every other car I've driven. I drive them all the same, it was only > the Toyota that could not hold up to a few full throttle automatically > controlled up shifts a week. so you say dude, so you say. pity all the others of millions of toyota abusers out there can't corroborate your assertion though, don't you think? then you'd be on to something. > It appears you really have little > understanding of how cars work. seems you really have little understanding of how to support a logical argument, let alone actually observe mechanical performance. -- nomina rutrum rutrum
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 20 Feb 2010 17:49 On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 14:00:04 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote: > On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:32:42 -0500, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote: > >>On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 22:21:00 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 19:24:55 -0500, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 22:34:35 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>>Well, I did it three times in one day, quite often. Never had a >>>>>>problem. >>>>>> >>>>>>Then again, I made sure the ATF was correct and at the correct level. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> You are becoming a desperate troll. Get back in touch when you >>>>> return to the land of the rational. Bye bye. >>>> >>>>I think you either just don't know how to drive, or were trying to >>>>drive a Tercel like a Supra. >>>> >>>>Either way, you ruined a perfectly good transmission in a perfectly >>>>good car all by yourself. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Believe what you want. It's your delusion. >> >>Not mine at all. You must have done something serious to be able to ruin >>this transmission. >> >>This transmission is rated 131 hp, and is mated to an engine that >>produces 108. You should congratulate yuourself for being clever enough >>to ruin an transmission rated 28 HP more than the engine can produce. >> >>The spec for 1st gear is 34MPH. You probably managed to exceed that, and >>probably the 2nd gear spec, too. Ever hear of an Owner's Manual? It's in >>there. >> >> >> > Is English a second language for you? What part of "it was shifting > itself in fully automatic mode" do you not understand? Just like every > other car I've driven. I drive them all the same, it was only the Toyota > that could not hold up to a few full throttle automatically controlled up > shifts a week. It appears you really have little understanding of how > cars work. What part of "You probably managed to exceed (the 34MPH spec) that..." did you not understand? If you don't think an autmatic transmission can exceed it's own spec speed limit under "full throttle shifts", then there's hope for you... http://www.greyhound.com/home/en/ticketsandtravel/TicketsAndTravelInfo.aspx
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 20 Feb 2010 17:50
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 13:17:43 -0800, jim beam wrote: > On 02/20/2010 01:00 PM, Ashton Crusher wrote: >> On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:32:42 -0500, Hachiroku ????<Trueno(a)e86.GTS> >> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 22:21:00 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 19:24:55 -0500, Hachiroku ????<Trueno(a)e86.GTS> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 22:34:35 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Well, I did it three times in one day, quite often. Never had a >>>>>>> problem. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Then again, I made sure the ATF was correct and at the correct >>>>>>> level. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> You are becoming a desperate troll. Get back in touch when you >>>>>> return to the land of the rational. Bye bye. >>>>> >>>>> I think you either just don't know how to drive, or were trying to >>>>> drive a Tercel like a Supra. >>>>> >>>>> Either way, you ruined a perfectly good transmission in a perfectly >>>>> good car all by yourself. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Believe what you want. It's your delusion. >>> >>> Not mine at all. You must have done something serious to be able to >>> ruin this transmission. >>> >>> This transmission is rated 131 hp, and is mated to an engine that >>> produces 108. You should congratulate yuourself for being clever enough >>> to ruin an transmission rated 28 HP more than the engine can produce. >>> >>> The spec for 1st gear is 34MPH. You probably managed to exceed that, >>> and probably the 2nd gear spec, too. Ever hear of an Owner's Manual? >>> It's in there. >>> >>> >>> >> Is English a second language for you? What part of "it was shifting >> itself in fully automatic mode" do you not understand? Just like every >> other car I've driven. I drive them all the same, it was only the >> Toyota that could not hold up to a few full throttle automatically >> controlled up shifts a week. > > so you say dude, so you say. pity all the others of millions of toyota > abusers out there can't corroborate your assertion though, don't you > think? then you'd be on to something. He drives them all the same? Sure. > > >> It appears you really have little >> understanding of how cars work. > > seems you really have little understanding of how to support a logical > argument, let alone actually observe mechanical performance. |