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From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 20 Feb 2010 17:52 On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 14:01:21 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote: >>i think that before you start giving him ANY #1, you need to step back >>and pay attention to your own experience first. unless there was some >>other fault already present, there's no way our friend damaged a toyota >>transmission simply by letting it shift at full throttle. cab drivers >>full throttle shift in their toyotas all day long, all over the world, >>[as of course, do many consumers] and those transmissions cope just fine. >> have you noticed how many "concerned user" postings there are in this >>group archive about failures? "but all i did was put my foot down", etc? >> none. there are literally millions of #2's out there, but suddenly, our >>friend pops up and pops off with just the kind of unproven but >>inflammatory "allegation" that the other paid sociopaths are posting. >>bottom line, he's making it up. > > > http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=2010762266 and you're proud of it!
From: Ashton Crusher on 20 Feb 2010 18:10 On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 13:17:43 -0800, jim beam <me(a)privacy.net> wrote: >On 02/20/2010 01:00 PM, Ashton Crusher wrote: >> On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:32:42 -0500, Hachiroku ????<Trueno(a)e86.GTS> >> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 22:21:00 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 19:24:55 -0500, Hachiroku ????<Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 22:34:35 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Well, I did it three times in one day, quite often. Never had a >>>>>>> problem. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Then again, I made sure the ATF was correct and at the correct level. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> You are becoming a desperate troll. Get back in touch when you return >>>>>> to the land of the rational. Bye bye. >>>>> >>>>> I think you either just don't know how to drive, or were trying to drive >>>>> a Tercel like a Supra. >>>>> >>>>> Either way, you ruined a perfectly good transmission in a perfectly good >>>>> car all by yourself. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Believe what you want. It's your delusion. >>> >>> Not mine at all. You must have done something serious to be able to ruin >>> this transmission. >>> >>> This transmission is rated 131 hp, and is mated to an engine that produces >>> 108. You should congratulate yuourself for being clever enough to ruin an >>> transmission rated 28 HP more than the engine can produce. >>> >>> The spec for 1st gear is 34MPH. You probably managed to exceed that, and >>> probably the 2nd gear spec, too. Ever hear of an Owner's Manual? It's in >>> there. >>> >>> >> >> Is English a second language for you? What part of "it was shifting >> itself in fully automatic mode" do you not understand? Just like >> every other car I've driven. I drive them all the same, it was only >> the Toyota that could not hold up to a few full throttle automatically >> controlled up shifts a week. > >so you say dude, so you say. pity all the others of millions of toyota >abusers out there can't corroborate your assertion though, don't you >think? then you'd be on to something. > > >> It appears you really have little >> understanding of how cars work. > >seems you really have little understanding of how to support a logical >argument, let alone actually observe mechanical performance. I'm just going to kill file you and save us both a lot of wasted typing.
From: jim beam on 20 Feb 2010 20:21 On 02/20/2010 03:10 PM, Ashton Crusher wrote: > On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 13:17:43 -0800, jim beam<me(a)privacy.net> wrote: > >> On 02/20/2010 01:00 PM, Ashton Crusher wrote: >>> On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:32:42 -0500, Hachiroku ????<Trueno(a)e86.GTS> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 22:21:00 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 19:24:55 -0500, Hachiroku ????<Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 22:34:35 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well, I did it three times in one day, quite often. Never had a >>>>>>>> problem. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Then again, I made sure the ATF was correct and at the correct level. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> You are becoming a desperate troll. Get back in touch when you return >>>>>>> to the land of the rational. Bye bye. >>>>>> >>>>>> I think you either just don't know how to drive, or were trying to drive >>>>>> a Tercel like a Supra. >>>>>> >>>>>> Either way, you ruined a perfectly good transmission in a perfectly good >>>>>> car all by yourself. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Believe what you want. It's your delusion. >>>> >>>> Not mine at all. You must have done something serious to be able to ruin >>>> this transmission. >>>> >>>> This transmission is rated 131 hp, and is mated to an engine that produces >>>> 108. You should congratulate yuourself for being clever enough to ruin an >>>> transmission rated 28 HP more than the engine can produce. >>>> >>>> The spec for 1st gear is 34MPH. You probably managed to exceed that, and >>>> probably the 2nd gear spec, too. Ever hear of an Owner's Manual? It's in >>>> there. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Is English a second language for you? What part of "it was shifting >>> itself in fully automatic mode" do you not understand? Just like >>> every other car I've driven. I drive them all the same, it was only >>> the Toyota that could not hold up to a few full throttle automatically >>> controlled up shifts a week. >> >> so you say dude, so you say. pity all the others of millions of toyota >> abusers out there can't corroborate your assertion though, don't you >> think? then you'd be on to something. >> >> >>> It appears you really have little >>> understanding of how cars work. >> >> seems you really have little understanding of how to support a logical >> argument, let alone actually observe mechanical performance. > > > I'm just going to kill file you and save us both a lot of wasted > typing. i have a better solution - don't post fabricated bullshit, then people won't call you on it. guaranteed to work. -- nomina rutrum rutrum
From: ben91932 on 20 Feb 2010 20:25 > For every warranty repair needed on a Toyota, how many warranty > repairs do you think are needed on a Ford? My buddy the Ford dealership tech does appx 80% warantee work. My buddy at Toyota does appx 15% warantee work. Thats why I still hold Toyota in much higher regard than Ford. Ben
From: Jeff Strickland on 20 Feb 2010 20:35
"jim beam" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message news:87qdnT9O1OQKFx3WnZ2dnUVZ_gpi4p2d(a)speakeasy.net... > On 02/20/2010 03:10 PM, Ashton Crusher wrote: >> On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 13:17:43 -0800, jim beam<me(a)privacy.net> wrote: >> >>> On 02/20/2010 01:00 PM, Ashton Crusher wrote: >>>> On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:32:42 -0500, Hachiroku ????<Trueno(a)e86.GTS> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 22:21:00 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 19:24:55 -0500, Hachiroku ????<Trueno(a)e86.GTS> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 22:34:35 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Well, I did it three times in one day, quite often. Never had a >>>>>>>>> problem. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Then again, I made sure the ATF was correct and at the correct >>>>>>>>> level. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You are becoming a desperate troll. Get back in touch when you >>>>>>>> return >>>>>>>> to the land of the rational. Bye bye. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think you either just don't know how to drive, or were trying to >>>>>>> drive >>>>>>> a Tercel like a Supra. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Either way, you ruined a perfectly good transmission in a perfectly >>>>>>> good >>>>>>> car all by yourself. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Believe what you want. It's your delusion. >>>>> >>>>> Not mine at all. You must have done something serious to be able to >>>>> ruin >>>>> this transmission. >>>>> >>>>> This transmission is rated 131 hp, and is mated to an engine that >>>>> produces >>>>> 108. You should congratulate yuourself for being clever enough to ruin >>>>> an >>>>> transmission rated 28 HP more than the engine can produce. >>>>> >>>>> The spec for 1st gear is 34MPH. You probably managed to exceed that, >>>>> and >>>>> probably the 2nd gear spec, too. Ever hear of an Owner's Manual? It's >>>>> in >>>>> there. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> Is English a second language for you? What part of "it was shifting >>>> itself in fully automatic mode" do you not understand? Just like >>>> every other car I've driven. I drive them all the same, it was only >>>> the Toyota that could not hold up to a few full throttle automatically >>>> controlled up shifts a week. >>> >>> so you say dude, so you say. pity all the others of millions of toyota >>> abusers out there can't corroborate your assertion though, don't you >>> think? then you'd be on to something. >>> >>> >>>> It appears you really have little >>>> understanding of how cars work. >>> >>> seems you really have little understanding of how to support a logical >>> argument, let alone actually observe mechanical performance. >> >> >> I'm just going to kill file you and save us both a lot of wasted >> typing. > > i have a better solution - don't post fabricated bullshit, then people > won't call you on it. guaranteed to work. > .... said the pot, while pointing his crooked little finger at the kettle. You've posted nothing but unsubstantiated assertions for as long as I can remember. 1.) E-spec lighting is illegal because Detroit says so. Yeah, right. 2.) Foreign cars have separate turn and brake lamps, Detroit cars have the same light for brakes and turns. Yeah, right. 3.) Metric doesn't work in America because Detroit says so. Having said that, I'd not expect any transmission to hold up for very long while pulling "full throttle shifts A FEW TIMES PER WEEK." Why on earth would anybody subject an econo-box of any make or model to full throttle shifts a few times a YEAR, much less a few times a week? (which is the same position that Jim Beam is taking) That's absurdity that exceeds the assertion that Detroit blocks e-spec lighting from coming here. |