From: Nate Nagel on
john wrote:
> "No matter the cause of the problem � floor mats, sticky pedals or
> electromagnetic interference � engineers and safety regulators told
> the Free Press that brake override is the solution.
>
> Said Joseph Kanianthra, a former National Highway Traffic Safety
> Administration official: �If the brake override was available in those
> vehicles, it could probably have prevented unintended accelebration.�
>
> Full article at:
> http://www.freep.com/article/20100209/BUSINESS01/100209048/1332/business01/Why-wont-Toyota-install-brake-override-software-some-experts-ask

This "brake override system" proposed also eliminates the possibility of
the driver intentionally trail-braking, making the cars worthless for
racing. Of course, we haven't had the Supra here for years, in any case...

nate

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From: Hachiroku on
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 07:55:35 -0500, Nate Nagel wrote:

> john wrote:
>> "No matter the cause of the problem — floor mats, sticky pedals or
>> electromagnetic interference — engineers and safety regulators told the
>> Free Press that brake override is the solution.
>>
>> Said Joseph Kanianthra, a former National Highway Traffic Safety
>> Administration official: “If the brake override was available in those
>> vehicles, it could probably have prevented unintended accelebration.”
>>
>> Full article at:
>> http://www.freep.com/article/20100209/BUSINESS01/100209048/1332/
business01/Why-wont-Toyota-install-brake-override-software-some-experts-
ask
>
> This "brake override system" proposed also eliminates the possibility of
> the driver intentionally trail-braking, making the cars worthless for
> racing. Of course, we haven't had the Supra here for years, in any
> case...
>
> nate

Nobody has. Supra production ended in 1999 (?)

Celica production continues, but not for US sale... :(
From: Steve on
Hachiroku ハチロク wrote:
> On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:33:19 -0800, john wrote:
>
>> "No matter the cause of the problem — floor mats, sticky pedals or
>> electromagnetic interference — engineers and safety regulators told the
>> Free Press that brake override is the solution.
>>
>> Said Joseph Kanianthra, a former National Highway Traffic Safety
>> Administration official: “If the brake override was available in those
>> vehicles, it could probably have prevented unintended accelebration.”
>>
>> Full article at:
>> http://www.freep.com/article/20100209/BUSINESS01/100209048/1332/business01/Why-wont-Toyota-install-brake-override-software-some-experts-ask
>
>
> Why don't you go ahead and design one and send it alnog to Toyota, genius?

No need.... If they don't want to program it themselves, Toyota could
just outsource fully functional brake override software from almost any
other carmaker out there. Ford, GM, Chrysler, BMW, Benz, Nissan,
Honda.... They all have it already on their throttle-by-wire cars.



From: dsi1 on
On 2/16/2010 3:32 PM, ACAR wrote:
> On Feb 9, 11:33 pm, john<johngd...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> "No matter the cause of the problem � floor mats, sticky pedals or
>> electromagnetic interference � engineers and safety regulators told
>> the Free Press that brake override is the solution.
>
> ... unless the driver panics and continues to press the throttle
> instead of the brake.

No, it sure won't keep that from happening. Perhaps cars need a big red
panic button on the dash. I've stepped on the gas instead of the brake
once. I was reversing out of a parking spot and a bicyclist unexpectedly
sped past behind me and I jumped on the brake, except it wasn't the
brake. The big Mercury Park Lane was on gravel so I mostly shot rocks
all over the place and made tire noises. I'm pretty sure that it freaked
out the guy on the bike.

Funny, it was pretty obvious what I did and I got off the gas fast.
That's the brakes. :-)

>
> but there's no chance that's the case, right?