From: jim on


jim beam wrote:

>
> but you're confusing frames with driveshafts. different materials.

In the newsgroup I am posting to nobody has until now has mentioned
anything about steel frames.

The first post in the thread that i see said:

"I think I heard they're recalling Toyota trucks
because the front propellor shaft can separate
(probably at the U-joint...)"


>
> > Did you know
> > what you were talking about when you said "there's nothing special about
> > ductile iron that would necessitate a proprietary japanese pour for a
> > usa casting." ?
>
> actually, i know quite a bit about steel production and processing.
> someone would need a real special reason to import ingot from japan.
> commodity "ductile iron" ain't it.

It doesn't sound like you know much about steel. You definitely don't
know much about cast irons either. Ductile iron is not a commodity it
is material that is produced as a result of the casting process.

-jim


>
> >
> >
> >
> >> the materials use in manufacture are not the same in both.
> >>
> >> --
> >> nomina rutrum rutrum
>
> --
> nomina rutrum rutrum
From: jim beam on
On 02/15/2010 06:40 AM, jim wrote:
>
>
> jim beam wrote:
>
>>
>> but you're confusing frames with driveshafts. different materials.
>
> In the newsgroup I am posting to nobody has until now has mentioned
> anything about steel frames.

then you're not reading the thread!


>
> The first post in the thread that i see said:
>
> "I think I heard they're recalling Toyota trucks
> because the front propellor shaft can separate
> (probably at the U-joint...)"

see above.


>
>
>>
>>> Did you know
>>> what you were talking about when you said "there's nothing special about
>>> ductile iron that would necessitate a proprietary japanese pour for a
>>> usa casting." ?
>>
>> actually, i know quite a bit about steel production and processing.
>> someone would need a real special reason to import ingot from japan.
>> commodity "ductile iron" ain't it.
>
> It doesn't sound like you know much about steel. You definitely don't
> know much about cast irons either. Ductile iron is not a commodity it
> is material that is produced as a result of the casting process.

whoa. wow. evidently you simply don't know what you don't know. but
we already know you've not read this thread or you'd have bothered with
the cites i gave earlier.


>
> -jim
>
>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> the materials use in manufacture are not the same in both.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> nomina rutrum rutrum
>>
>> --
>> nomina rutrum rutrum


--
nomina rutrum rutrum
From: jim on


jim beam wrote:
>
> On 02/15/2010 06:40 AM, jim wrote:
> >
> >
> > jim beam wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> but you're confusing frames with driveshafts. different materials.
> >
> > In the newsgroup I am posting to nobody has until now has mentioned
> > anything about steel frames.
>
> then you're not reading the thread!

Or maybe you are hallucinating.

>
> >
> > The first post in the thread that i see said:
> >
> > "I think I heard they're recalling Toyota trucks
> > because the front propellor shaft can separate
> > (probably at the U-joint...)"
>
> see above.

see above

>
> >
> >
> >>
> >>> Did you know
> >>> what you were talking about when you said "there's nothing special about
> >>> ductile iron that would necessitate a proprietary japanese pour for a
> >>> usa casting." ?
> >>
> >> actually, i know quite a bit about steel production and processing.
> >> someone would need a real special reason to import ingot from japan.
> >> commodity "ductile iron" ain't it.
> >
> > It doesn't sound like you know much about steel. You definitely don't
> > know much about cast irons either. Ductile iron is not a commodity it
> > is material that is produced as a result of the casting process.
>
> whoa. wow. evidently you simply don't know what you don't know. but
> we already know you've not read this thread or you'd have bothered with
> the cites i gave earlier.

How does that make the foolish statement I was responding to any less
foolish?
From: jim beam on
On 02/15/2010 09:00 AM, jim wrote:
>
>
> jim beam wrote:
>>
>> On 02/15/2010 06:40 AM, jim wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> jim beam wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> but you're confusing frames with driveshafts. different materials.
>>>
>>> In the newsgroup I am posting to nobody has until now has mentioned
>>> anything about steel frames.
>>
>> then you're not reading the thread!
>
> Or maybe you are hallucinating.
>
>>
>>>
>>> The first post in the thread that i see said:
>>>
>>> "I think I heard they're recalling Toyota trucks
>>> because the front propellor shaft can separate
>>> (probably at the U-joint...)"
>>
>> see above.
>
> see above
>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Did you know
>>>>> what you were talking about when you said "there's nothing special about
>>>>> ductile iron that would necessitate a proprietary japanese pour for a
>>>>> usa casting." ?
>>>>
>>>> actually, i know quite a bit about steel production and processing.
>>>> someone would need a real special reason to import ingot from japan.
>>>> commodity "ductile iron" ain't it.
>>>
>>> It doesn't sound like you know much about steel. You definitely don't
>>> know much about cast irons either. Ductile iron is not a commodity it
>>> is material that is produced as a result of the casting process.
>>
>> whoa. wow. evidently you simply don't know what you don't know. but
>> we already know you've not read this thread or you'd have bothered with
>> the cites i gave earlier.
>
> How does that make the foolish statement I was responding to any less
> foolish?

it doesn't make your statement less foolish dude. "ductile iron" is
very much a commodity. you'd know that if you knew about iron/steel.


--
nomina rutrum rutrum
From: Steve on
jim beam wrote:
> On 02/13/2010 04:19 PM, C. E. White wrote:
>>
>> "Hachiroku ハチロク" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>> news:hl5f5n$l03$2(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>>> ....This is not as major a recall as the frames; the first round was
>>> 1996 or 97 to 2003, huundreds of thousands of trucks Toyota bought back
>>> for 150% of Kelley Blue Book, but a lot of them promptly bought a new
>>> Tacoma...
>>>
>>> Only to find out a year or two later it ALSO had a Dana frame that could
>>> rot prematurely!
>>
>> Dana makes frames for lots of companies. Why does it seem only the
>> Toyota frames are so bad there are recalls for them?
>>


Because only the Toyota frames were built to Toyota's specifications.
Which were obviously inadequate.

The Tundra is deader than 1980's thanksgiving turkey. Stick a fork in it.