TRUCK RECALL?!?!?!?
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From: C. E. White on 13 Feb 2010 19:20 "Hachiroku" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message news:pan.2010.02.14.00.32.02.859000(a)e86.GTS... > On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 12:12:27 -0500, Mike Hunter wrote: > >> (Cross posting deleted, automatically) >> >> Why would Dana be sweating? The problem is in the steel that is made by >> Nippon LOL > > Then why is it only US made trucks? > > Read the release: Dana found an error in the manufacturing process. That was for the drive shaft. I thought Mike was talking about the rusting frames. Ed
From: jim beam on 13 Feb 2010 19:26 On 02/13/2010 03:56 PM, jim wrote: > > > jim beam wrote: >> >> On 02/13/2010 12:54 PM, Mike Hunter wrote: >>> Get real! Nippon makes the steel Dana is required to use by Toyota and >>> Lexus models that are being recalled are made in Japan >> >> that's utter bullshit. /any/ steel conforming to spec will do. > > Nope not BS. First of all the part in question is not made of steel, > but Ductile Iron and it isn't made by DANA or Toyota but is cast at > various US foundries. The particular iron alloy is indeed made in Japan > and supplied to the foundries. This is standard practice for Honda and > Toyota to supply the foundries with the iron alloy ingot. nothing personal, but i don't believe this because the economics and the metallurgy simply don't support the logic. if you have proof they would do something so ridiculously inefficient and needlessly expensive [it makes no sense to ship ingot because it weighs so much and has so little value - shipping finished product is where the economics work] feel free to post it, but i'd want to see something definitive, not mere usenet gossip. there's nothing special about ductile iron that would necessitate a proprietary japanese pour for a usa casting. > From the sounds of it Dana identified a particular batch of castings > that were bad (Dana said that less than 2% of the parts shipped had the > defect) > > -jim -- nomina rutrum rutrum
From: jim beam on 13 Feb 2010 19:57 On 02/13/2010 04:19 PM, C. E. White wrote: > > "Hachiroku ハチロク" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message > news:hl5f5n$l03$2(a)news.eternal-september.org... > >> ....This is not as major a recall as the frames; the first round was >> 1996 or 97 to 2003, huundreds of thousands of trucks Toyota bought back >> for 150% of Kelley Blue Book, but a lot of them promptly bought a new >> Tacoma... >> >> Only to find out a year or two later it ALSO had a Dana frame that could >> rot prematurely! > > Dana makes frames for lots of companies. Why does it seem only the > Toyota frames are so bad there are recalls for them? > > Google the following: > * rusting Toyota frame recall - 3,420,000 hits > * rusting Ford frame recall - 478,000 hits, and most were actually > talking about the Toyota rusting frames > * rusting Chevrolet frame recall - 1,840,00 hits, and again most of them > were actually talking about Rusting Toyota frames > > Try it for yourself... > > Given the fact that Ford and Chevrolet have each sold more than 10 times > as many trucks as Toyota, don't you think if they had the same sort of > problem with rusting frames, there be more complaints about them on the > internet? > > You guys need to quit drinking the Toyota kool-aid. They have repeatedly > shown disregard for there Customer and have to be dragged kicking and > screaming into doing the right thing. > > Ed > frod just buries their mistakes. literally. -- nomina rutrum rutrum
From: jim on 13 Feb 2010 20:50 jim beam wrote: > > nothing personal, but i don't believe this because the economics and the > metallurgy simply don't support the logic. if you have proof they would > do something so ridiculously inefficient and needlessly expensive [it > makes no sense to ship ingot because it weighs so much and has so little > value - shipping finished product is where the economics work] feel free > to post it, but i'd want to see something definitive, not mere usenet > gossip. there's nothing special about ductile iron that would > necessitate a proprietary japanese pour for a usa casting. Obviously, the Japanese car makers forgot to consult your advice on the matter. They may well prefer to ship the finished part, but congress has managed to make the economics work out that the part gets made in the US. BTW, Most of the steel used in US autos comes from this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lakshmi_Mittal > > > From the sounds of it Dana identified a particular batch of castings > > that were bad (Dana said that less than 2% of the parts shipped had the > > defect) > > > > -jim > > -- > nomina rutrum rutrum
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 14 Feb 2010 02:00
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 17:18:28 +1100, Tom wrote: > > Once again, you mislead (ie lie). I never told you to fix your clock This one will really throw him for a l00p. |