TRUCK RECALL?!?!?!?
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From: Hachiroku on 13 Feb 2010 19:32 On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 12:12:27 -0500, Mike Hunter wrote: > (Cross posting deleted, automatically) > > Why would Dana be sweating? The problem is in the steel that is made by > Nippon LOL Then why is it only US made trucks? Read the release: Dana found an error in the manufacturing process. > > > "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message > news:hl5f5n$l03$2(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:42:39 -0800, jim beam wrote: >> >>> On 02/12/2010 08:32 PM, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B wrote: >>>> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 23:12:58 -0500, Hachiroku ???? wrote: >>>> >>>>> I think I heard they're recalling Toyota trucks because the front >>>>> propellor shaft can separate (probably at the U-joint...) >>>>> >>>>> Oh, boy... >>>> >>>> >>>> Here's the lowdown. Take a look at who discovered the problem... >>>> >>>> By now, we've lost count of how many vehicles Toyota has recalled >>>> (it's somewhere north of 8.1 million vehicles). According to a Toyota >>>> spokesman, the Japanese automaker is also voluntarily recalling >>>> approximately 8,000 four-wheel-drive Tacoma pickups to fix a problem in >>>> the front propeller shaft. >>>> >>>> Toyota says that a crack can develop in the rear joint of the Tacoma >>>> leading to the driveshaft separating and falling away from the truck. >>>> >>>> The issue was discovered by Dana Corporation during the manufacturing >>>> process of the front prop shaft. >>>> >>>> The recall affects Tacoma models that were produced from mid-December >>>> 2009 to early Feb. 2010. >>>> >>>> >>>> DANA!!! Can you say, "Rusting frames"? >>>> >>>> If I were Toyota' I think I'd consider dropping Dana from the list of >>>> preferred suppliers. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> hopefully toyota will have learned their lesson - don't trust domestic >>> suppliers. >> >> I thought CTS was going to be under close scrutiny, but I think Dana is >> toast! This is not as major a recall as the frames; the first round was >> 1996 or 97 to 2003, huundreds of thousands of trucks Toyota bought back >> for 150% of Kelley Blue Book, but a lot of them promptly bought a new >> Tacoma... >> >> Only to find out a year or two later it ALSO had a Dana frame that could >> rot prematurely! >> >> This recall 'only' affects 8,000 vehicles, but I bet the guys at Dana are >> sweating bullets... >> >>> >>> actually, two lessons: make sure your competition doesn't spend more on >>> political donations than you do! >> >> >> Yeah, that too. I particularly liked the ads Chevrolet dealers were >> running that said, We'll give you $1,000 more than book value! >> >> Sure! Why the hell not? It's *OUR* money!!! >> >>
From: jim beam on 13 Feb 2010 18:08 On 02/13/2010 12:54 PM, Mike Hunter wrote: > Get real! Nippon makes the steel Dana is required to use by Toyota and > Lexus models that are being recalled are made in Japan that's utter bullshit. /any/ steel conforming to spec will do. and DO NOT cut out the cross-postings other people have used. > > > > "Hachiroku"<Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message > news:pan.2010.02.14.00.32.02.859000(a)e86.GTS... >> On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 12:12:27 -0500, Mike Hunter wrote: >> >>> (Cross posting deleted, automatically) >>> >>> Why would Dana be sweating? The problem is in the steel that is made by >>> Nippon LOL >> >> Then why is it only US made trucks? >> > > -- nomina rutrum rutrum
From: Clive on 13 Feb 2010 18:22 In message <D4ednbEvVo-erOrWnZ2dnUVZ_qdi4p2d(a)speakeasy.net>, jim beam <me(a)privacy.net> writes >>>>Why would Dana be sweating? The problem is in the steel that is made by >>>> Nippon LOL As I said in another post, it's never the fault of the Merkins it's always someone else. -- Clive
From: jim on 13 Feb 2010 18:56 jim beam wrote: > > On 02/13/2010 12:54 PM, Mike Hunter wrote: > > Get real! Nippon makes the steel Dana is required to use by Toyota and > > Lexus models that are being recalled are made in Japan > > that's utter bullshit. /any/ steel conforming to spec will do. Nope not BS. First of all the part in question is not made of steel, but Ductile Iron and it isn't made by DANA or Toyota but is cast at various US foundries. The particular iron alloy is indeed made in Japan and supplied to the foundries. This is standard practice for Honda and Toyota to supply the foundries with the iron alloy ingot. From the sounds of it Dana identified a particular batch of castings that were bad (Dana said that less than 2% of the parts shipped had the defect) -jim
From: C. E. White on 13 Feb 2010 19:19
"Hachiroku ハチロク" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message news:hl5f5n$l03$2(a)news.eternal-september.org... >....This is not as major a recall as the frames; the first round was > 1996 or 97 to 2003, huundreds of thousands of trucks Toyota bought back > for 150% of Kelley Blue Book, but a lot of them promptly bought a new > Tacoma... > > Only to find out a year or two later it ALSO had a Dana frame that could > rot prematurely! Dana makes frames for lots of companies. Why does it seem only the Toyota frames are so bad there are recalls for them? Google the following: * rusting Toyota frame recall - 3,420,000 hits * rusting Ford frame recall - 478,000 hits, and most were actually talking about the Toyota rusting frames * rusting Chevrolet frame recall - 1,840,00 hits, and again most of them were actually talking about Rusting Toyota frames Try it for yourself... Given the fact that Ford and Chevrolet have each sold more than 10 times as many trucks as Toyota, don't you think if they had the same sort of problem with rusting frames, there be more complaints about them on the internet? You guys need to quit drinking the Toyota kool-aid. They have repeatedly shown disregard for there Customer and have to be dragged kicking and screaming into doing the right thing. Ed |