From: Mike Hunter on
What part of convoluted did you not understand?

We are still waiting for any proof that shows man is the cause of climate
change and that it is not just caused by the forces of nature, dummy. LOL


"dr_jeff" <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in message
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> Conscience wrote:
>> On 2010-04-01 09:17:03 -0700, dr_jeff <utz(a)msu.edu> said:
>>
>>> Conscience wrote:
>>>> On 2010-04-01 04:07:21 -0700, dr_jeff <utz(a)msu.edu> said:
>>>>
>>>>> So you're so sure in your assessment of the situation that you ignore
>>>>> or explain data that contradicts your position.
>>>>
>>>> http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/03/31/arctic-sea-ice-about-to-hit-normal-what-will-the-news-say/#more-17970
>>
>> http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/
>>
>> Mine's
>>>>
>> better.
>
> Why? Because it comes to the conclusion you support? Mine's better because
> it more accurately represents the state of things in real life, not your
> wishes.
>
> Jeff


From: charlesgrozny on
Now that UtzMost Jeff is calling himself the UtzMost Dr Jeff, I can only
surmise that he's earned a PhD. Which really means Piled Higher and Deeper
in his case.

It seems many who earn advanced degrees demonstrate how stupid they really
are.

Charles Grozny


From: dr_jeff on
Jane Galt wrote:
> dr_jeff <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote :
>
>>> Just because many of the "scientists" were proven to be lying to get fat
>>> cat government funding, and we've had global cooling for 15 years now?
>> None of them were lying. They may have made mistakes in the way they
>> presented data, but they weren't lying.
>
> The email scandals prove you wrong. They made intentional changes to the
> data, to support liberal outcomes and their grant money of course. That's
> lying.

Wrong.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100330/ap_on_re_us/climate_hacked_e_mails

Jeff

>>> But if it's a religion to you, feel free to say so, then at least we
> wont
>>> expect reason along with your irrational belief system.
>> You need to look in the mirror when say that. The evidence that global
>> warming is there. It is seen in the shorter winters and longer summers,
>> the warmer temperatures at the poles, and the melting ice-caps on
>> mountains. It is seen in the NASA data that show that the average
>> temperature of globe is going up.
>
> http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/01/11/years-global-cooling-coming-say-
> leading-scientists/
>
> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,518958,00.html
>
> and I know that Fox News is like pouring water on the wicked witch, with
> you socialists, so:
>
> http://www.denisdutton.com/cooling_world.htm
>
> http://www.dailytech.com/Temperature+Monitors+Report+Widescale+Global+Cooli
> ng/article10866.htm
>
> Do Google: global cooling
> and find out for yourself, then go have a good cry for being such a fool,
> wont you?
>
>> The science that shows how global warming works is extremely solid,
>> particularly how CO2 and other greenhouse gases absorb infrared light
>> block heat from leaving the atmosphere.
>
> Solid political propaganda bent on crippling and globalizing the United
> States.
>
>> So you're so sure in your assessment of the situation that you ignore or
>> explain data that contradicts your position.
>
> ( This is like shooting ducks in a barrel )
> http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2010/01/global-cooling/33258/
>
> http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/07/12/four-scientists-global-warming-out-
> global-cooling-in/
>
> http://content.usatoday.com/communities/sciencefair/post/2010/03/global-
> cooling-what-happens-if-the-iceland-volcano-blows/1
>
> "The potential eruption of Iceland's volcano Katla would likely send the
> world, including the USA, into an extended deep freeze.
>
> "When Katla went off in the 1700s, the USA suffered a very cold winter,"
> says Gary Hufford, a scientist with the Alaska Region of the National
> Weather Service. "To the point, the Mississippi River froze just north of
> New Orleans and the East Coast, especially New England, had an extremely
> cold winter."
>
> This is SO beyond the ability of humans to affect it.
>
From: Rodan on
"Conscience" wrote:

There are no real atheists. Everyone worships something.
______________________________________________________________

"Rodan" wrote :

Yes - a whole Ortega chili slathered with mayonnaise,
wrapped in a warm soft flour tortilla.
________________________________________________________________

"Angela Marsh" wrote:

Lance?
__________________________________________________________________

Sorry, I'm not Lance. I'm a 73-year old retiree living on
Whidbey Island, staring at Puget Sound as I look back on
my adventures (exhilaration, boredom, terror, romance).
It was preposterous but it wasn't so bad after all.

I hope you find Lance.

Good luck,

Rodan.

From: dr_jeff on
Mike Hunter wrote:
> What part of convoluted did you not understand?
>
> We are still waiting for any proof that shows man is the cause of climate
> change and that it is not just caused by the forces of nature, dummy. LOL

You can't find any proof of anything. You can't prove gravity is real.
Rather, all you can do is find evidence that supports or doesn't support
the hypothesis. And if I could come up with a better explanation of how
things are attracted to each other than gravity and had the data to
support it, gravity would be disproved.

That's how science works. And the evidence that climate change is real
is overwhelming. And the evidence that man is behind it is simple: The
chemistry and physics of CO2 and the amount of CO2 that people are
putting into the atmosphere when they use coal to make electricity, oil
to power cars and make cement (which releases significant amounts of CO2
when it is hardening as part of the chemical reaction).

You can find the evidence yourself on the internet if you have 1/2 a
brain. You can go and read the IPCC reports yourself and do a search and
learn for yourself at scholar.google.com.

However, I feel I am wasting my with you. So I am going to go outside
and enjoy my day.

I hope you have a lovely one, too.

Jeff

> "dr_jeff" <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in message
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>> Conscience wrote:
>>> On 2010-04-01 09:17:03 -0700, dr_jeff <utz(a)msu.edu> said:
>>>
>>>> Conscience wrote:
>>>>> On 2010-04-01 04:07:21 -0700, dr_jeff <utz(a)msu.edu> said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> So you're so sure in your assessment of the situation that you ignore
>>>>>> or explain data that contradicts your position.
>>>>> http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/03/31/arctic-sea-ice-about-to-hit-normal-what-will-the-news-say/#more-17970
>>> http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/
>>>
>>> Mine's
>>> better.
>> Why? Because it comes to the conclusion you support? Mine's better because
>> it more accurately represents the state of things in real life, not your
>> wishes.
>>
>> Jeff
>
>