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From: Dave on 30 Mar 2010 20:53 "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote in message news:4bb21139$0$19661$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net... > Want more government regulations? You have not seen anything yet, wait > till the government totally takes over our health care in 2014. > > It has already begun! The Government that CURRENTLY regulates trans-fats > is trying to tax the "sugary" drinks that are killing our children. > > Next will come smoking regulations. One local major employer announced > today they will test all new workers for nicotine, if you have it in your > system they will not give you a job because it will further increase their > health care costs under the new bill. > > Three major US manufactures are telling us their health care cost will go > up by millions of dollars a year, which will lead to higher prices for > their products. What next will they not employ any new employees who are > overweight? The federal government will start controlling what we eat > for the same reasons. Can government control of the use of alcohol be > far behind? > > Not only will the government be telling you what you can eat, wait to you > see what happens to your privilege to DRIVE when they start to restrict > driving, or what you can drive to reduce the number injured on killed on > our highways. > > I suspect we will see a new "1984" book written called "2084," total > government control of the lives of all those still alive at the time. > LOL > > Damn, Mike, you're beginning to sound like your son, Canuck57.
From: Rodan on 30 Mar 2010 23:03 "Dave" wrote: Damn, Mike, you're beginning to sound like your son, Canuck57. ______________________________________________________________________ His son? Is that why he re-posts everything Canuck57 writes?
From: Jane Galt on 30 Mar 2010 23:22 "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote : > I suspect we will see a new "1984" book written called "2084," total > government control of the lives of all those still alive at the time. I think the plan is to dissolve the United States into global government LONG before that. ASAP is their goal. -- Jane Galt "There is no difference between communism and socialism, except in the means of achieving the same ultimate end: communism proposes to enslave men by force, socialism - by vote. It is merely the difference between murder and suicide." -- Ayn Rand
From: Bill Putney on 31 Mar 2010 06:23 dr_jeff wrote: > They regulate drugs, requiring that the meet certain purity and > effectiveness standards. They regulate doctors, teachers and other > professionals, requiring that they don't have a serious criminal history > before they can go into the clinic or classroom. What a horror? What's > next? Requiring that priests don't molest children? And what right does > the federal government have to make sure that cars are safe? The nerve > of the government. Let's look at the other side of the coin: Where do you draw the line of the government involvement in and micromanagement of our personal lives? It sounds to me like once we violate any of the Constitution in that regard, your philosophy is that that barrier is now broken, there therefore now are no constraints, we throw the Constitution out. The problem is that when government has the extra-Constitutional authority that it has taken on, it allows manipulation of information to achieve political goals (hidden agendas). The present day is full of examples in things such as "extinction of polar bears" and "global warming". Once a problem is identified and linked to a cause using false science, then anything that can in any way be associated with that cause is subject to restriction and taxation, never mind that the original premises that the controlled activity is linked is based on false/manipulated science invented purely to accomplish hidden goals. Health care is a problem? OK - private property is no longer a valid concept - we'll confiscate what we need from those who have it (redistribution of wealth), Marxism rules, the Constitution drools. The Constitution prohibits certain things precisely because those things are subject to manipulation by despots (see Declaration of Independence). Prohibiting things that otherwise may seem like the "right thing to do" are protecting against a much worse "evil" (can I say that word?). Basically what I'm saying is that we are way down on that slippery slope and have no Constitution left by all the "logic" that is being applied in our political system. Pick up and read a copy of Mark Levin's "Liberty and Tyranny". -- Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x')
From: dr_jeff on 31 Mar 2010 07:16
Bill Putney wrote: > dr_jeff wrote: > >> They regulate drugs, requiring that the meet certain purity and >> effectiveness standards. They regulate doctors, teachers and other >> professionals, requiring that they don't have a serious criminal >> history before they can go into the clinic or classroom. What a >> horror? What's next? Requiring that priests don't molest children? And >> what right does the federal government have to make sure that cars are >> safe? The nerve of the government. > > Let's look at the other side of the coin: Where do you draw the line of > the government involvement in and micromanagement of our personal lives? > It sounds to me like once we violate any of the Constitution in that > regard, your philosophy is that that barrier is now broken, there > therefore now are no constraints, we throw the Constitution out. Incorrect. My philosophy is that the proper place of government (that is the people) is to set up regulations so that people are protected from unfair and unsafe practices (e.g., lending laws and health laws). > The problem is that when government has the extra-Constitutional > authority that it has taken on, it allows manipulation of information to > achieve political goals (hidden agendas). The present day is full of > examples in things such as "extinction of polar bears" and "global > warming". You seem to make the assumption that there are hidden agendas and that global warming is not real. Fact is that the evidence overwhelmingly shows that our unintentional manipulation of the CO2 concentration can have drastic changes in the environment and that last changes have already occurrred. > Once a problem is identified and linked to a cause using > false science, then anything that can in any way be associated with that > cause is subject to restriction and taxation, never mind that the > original premises that the controlled activity is linked is based on > false/manipulated science invented purely to accomplish hidden goals. That's human nature. Look how we let Bush run over us with anything linked to 9/11 and security. However, as pointed out, it is not false science. It is false science to assume that we can dump CO2 into atmosphere and destroy our environment without consequences. > Health care is a problem? OK - private property is no longer a valid > concept - we'll confiscate what we need from those who have it > (redistribution of wealth), Marxism rules, the Constitution drools. We already have a redistribution of wealth - from the poor to the rich. If you don't believe me, look at how the poor and middle class have barely got richer while the rich have become much richer over the last 20 or years. In addition, health care is a big reason why wages haven't gone up all that much. Companies pay so much for health care, they can't afford higher raises. Yet, no one has explained why health care should be paid for by employers. > The Constitution prohibits certain things precisely because those things > are subject to manipulation by despots (see Declaration of > Independence). Prohibiting things that otherwise may seem like the > "right thing to do" are protecting against a much worse "evil" (can I > say that word?). > > Basically what I'm saying is that we are way down on that slippery slope > and have no Constitution left by all the "logic" that is being applied > in our political system. > > Pick up and read a copy of Mark Levin's "Liberty and Tyranny". Right, I am going to waste my time reading anything because you recommend it. Jeff |