From: Rodan on

"Conscience" wrote:

There are no real atheists. Everyone worships something.
______________________________________________________________

Yes - a whole Ortega chili slathered with mayonnaise,
wrapped in a warm soft flour tortilla.

Rodan.
From: charlesgrozny on
Bambi Nobama is the first pres of the US to violate his oath of office just
by taking it.

Charles Grozny


From: Mike Hunter on
Once again what you choose to believe is wrong LOL


"Canuck57" <Canuck57(a)nospam.com> wrote in message
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> On 27/03/2010 8:57 AM, Mike Hunter wrote:
>> One of my grand daughters was in Costa Rica, her rental cars was struck
>> from
>> the rear. When she asked a policemen to call an ambulance she was told
>> ambulances only resound for people who are badly hurt that can not drive
>> to
>> a hospital.
>>
>> She had to call a cab, it was a ten year old Nissan. When she got to
>> the
>> hospital they told her she had to wait till morning when the Doctors come
>> in. They put her in a ward, with all types of other patients, many who
>> were coughing.
>>
>> A doctor came to see her around 1PM. He told her they would X-ray her
>> neck
>> the next day. She was there for three more days in that hospital, that
>> was
>> NOT even air-conditioned, before they sent her home without pain
>> medicine.
>> The bed linins were never changed during all that time. She asked the
>> only
>> "nurse" in that ward, who was actually only a nurses aid, about clean
>> sheets
>> and was told that family members bring in clean sheets and take the dirty
>> sheets home to be washed.
>>
>> Her care was "free" under the countries health care law. When she came
>> back to the states she went to her Doctor, because of her continuing
>> pain,
>> who discovered she had a neck injury that required surgery. I was
>> performed at Saint Luke's hospital in Milwaukie the next day.
>>
>> Is that the type of care we can expect from government run health care?
>> You bet!
>
> Hey Mike, I thought you were all for Obama bailing out every loser?
>
>
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> --------------
> Politicians don't provide anything, the tax payers do.


From: Mike Hunter on
I'll say it again, perhaps you will get it the second time you read what I
said. I never said that, my friend. I mealy pointed out the erroneous
things you were posting about GM, big difference from backing BO.


"Canuck57" <Canuck57(a)nospam.com> wrote in message
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> You are a funny paradox. You should seek some help. Pro-GM, GM is OK for
> pork and bailout. Supplid by Obama. Yet you do and don't support Obama
> marxism. Yet when it hits health care, you 180 degrees out of sync.
>
> I know, liberals are a confusing bunch. But if you support GM, you must
> support Obama, as it is Obama Governemtn Motors.
>
>
> On 27/03/2010 6:12 PM, Mike Hunter wrote:
>> I never said that, my friend. I mealy pointed out the erroneous things
>> you
>> were posting about GM, big difference from backing BO.
>>
>>
>> "Canuck57"<Canuck57(a)nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:qCurn.92733$Dv7.46262(a)newsfe17.iad...
>>> On 27/03/2010 8:57 AM, Mike Hunter wrote:
>>>> One of my grand daughters was in Costa Rica, her rental cars was struck
>>>> from
>>>> the rear. When she asked a policemen to call an ambulance she was
>>>> told
>>>> ambulances only resound for people who are badly hurt that can not
>>>> drive
>>>> to
>>>> a hospital.
>>>>
>>>> She had to call a cab, it was a ten year old Nissan. When she got to
>>>> the
>>>> hospital they told her she had to wait till morning when the Doctors
>>>> come
>>>> in. They put her in a ward, with all types of other patients, many
>>>> who
>>>> were coughing.
>>>>
>>>> A doctor came to see her around 1PM. He told her they would X-ray her
>>>> neck
>>>> the next day. She was there for three more days in that hospital, that
>>>> was
>>>> NOT even air-conditioned, before they sent her home without pain
>>>> medicine.
>>>> The bed linins were never changed during all that time. She asked the
>>>> only
>>>> "nurse" in that ward, who was actually only a nurses aid, about clean
>>>> sheets
>>>> and was told that family members bring in clean sheets and take the
>>>> dirty
>>>> sheets home to be washed.
>>>>
>>>> Her care was "free" under the countries health care law. When she
>>>> came
>>>> back to the states she went to her Doctor, because of her continuing
>>>> pain,
>>>> who discovered she had a neck injury that required surgery. I was
>>>> performed at Saint Luke's hospital in Milwaukie the next day.
>>>>
>>>> Is that the type of care we can expect from government run health care?
>>>> You bet!
>>>
>>> Hey Mike, I thought you were all for Obama bailing out every loser?
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --------------
>>> Politicians don't provide anything, the tax payers do.
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> --------------
> Politicians don't provide anything, the tax payers do.


From: Mike Hunter on
As one would suspect you didn't get the point of the post. Of course
companies should have standards that the people they employ must meet.
However the point of the post was, now that the government in running our
healthcare system one can reasonably expect regulations requiring you to do
what the government things you to should eat etc., because they are already
telling others what they can or can not sell to their customers. If you
doubt that will happen to our health care, just look the control it
currently has over the types of vehicles automobile manufactures are
currently allowed to sell.

When the 35 MPH CAFE becomes fully implemented we will be forced to buy more
of the less safe small on midget cars that buyers are refusing to buy today.
That will result in the number of injuries and deaths going back up. It
will also cause the price of fuel going up as well, oil companies are not
going to loose money because we may us less fuel in our vehicles.

Check the history of the price of fuel each time the CAFE was raise if you
don't understand.


"dr_jeff" <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in message
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> Mike Hunter wrote:
>> Want more government regulations? You have not seen anything yet, wait
>> till the government totally takes over our health care in 2014.
>>
>> It has already begun! The Government that CURRENTLY regulates
>> trans-fats is trying to tax the "sugary" drinks that are killing our
>> children.
>
> They regulate drugs, requiring that the meet certain purity and
> effectiveness standards. They regulate doctors, teachers and other
> professionals, requiring that they don't have a serious criminal history
> before they can go into the clinic or classroom. What a horror? What's
> next? Requiring that priests don't molest children? And what right does
> the federal government have to make sure that cars are safe? The nerve of
> the government.
>
>> Next will come smoking regulations. One local major employer announced
>> today they will test all new workers for nicotine, if you have it in your
>> system they will not give you a job because it will further increase
>> their health care costs under the new bill.
>
> That's a local employer taking its health-care costs in its own hands.
> Should we regulate that, too?
>
>> Three major US manufactures are telling us their health care cost will go
>> up by millions of dollars a year, which will lead to higher prices for
>> their products. What next will they not employ any new employees who are
>> overweight? The federal government will start controlling what we eat
>> for the same reasons. Can government control of the use of alcohol be
>> far behind?
>
> Well, if a business stops hiring fat people, isn't that the business's
> decision? Are you saying we should regulate businesses?
>
> What if it is one of those three major US manufacturers? That would help
> lower their health-care costs.
>
> That alcohol regulation would be good for you and stop your drunken rants.
>
>> Not only will the government be telling you what you can eat, wait to
>> you see what happens to your privilege to DRIVE when they start to
>> restrict driving, or what you can drive to reduce the number injured on
>> killed on our highways.
>
> Legally, I may not drive a tractor-trailer, school bus or motorcycle. You
> think this is a bad thing?
>
>> I suspect we will see a new "1984" book written called "2084," total
>> government control of the lives of all those still alive at the time.
>> LOL
>
> Yeah, right.
>
>> "dr_jeff" <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in message >
>>> There is a big difference between good regulation and stupidity. Banks
>>> encouraged to make loans that can't be repaid is stupidity.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>