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From: charlesgrozny on 22 Mar 2010 21:16 "Dave" <hairy411(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:80qieaFp64U1(a)mid.individual.net... > > "charlesgrozny" <n5hsr(a)sprynet.com> wrote in message > news:W-WdnQdUSrcoJjvWnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >> >> "Bill Putney" <bptn(a)kinez.net> wrote in message >> news:80nqlsFcjU1(a)mid.individual.net... >>> FatterDumber& Happier Moe wrote: >>> >>>> ...Something had to be done... >>> >>> Yep - typical government solution: Got a bad situation - someone broke a >>> leg so you put a tourniquet on their arm. Problem is the leg is still >>> broken, and now you have to amputate the arm. >>> >>> Yeah - I love the "But we *have* to do something!!!" crowd. >>> >>> How about fix it with solutions that would really accomplish something? >>> What a concept. >>> >>> -- >>> Bill Putney >>> (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my >>> address with the letter 'x') >> >> Don't waste your time arguing with either Fathead Moe or any of the other >> liberals here. They don't listen to any opinion they don't agree with. >> They think all people that don't agree with them are righttards, and they >> quickly degenerate into namecalling. They've smoked the hopium and their >> minds are blown. >> >> Charles Grozny > > Oh, the irony............. Plonk. I'm tired of arguing with idiots like you. Go do something anatomically impossible to yourself. After you go play on the freeway. Charles Grozny
From: Dave on 22 Mar 2010 21:33 "Bill Putney" <bptn(a)kinez.net> wrote in message news:80qe0bF1t5U2(a)mid.individual.net... > larry moe 'n curly wrote: > >> Our hospitals are great; it's our private health insurance system >> that's bad. > > Then we should fix them. What just got voted in the House yesterday is > the equivalent of putting a tourniquet on your arm when you have a broken > leg, with the result that you still have a broken leg, and now you also > need your arm amputated. > You seem to quite proud of that analogy, since you keep repeating it. How about explaining the relevance.
From: Bill Putney on 22 Mar 2010 21:46 Dave wrote: > > "Bill Putney" <bptn(a)kinez.net> wrote in message > news:80qe0bF1t5U2(a)mid.individual.net... >> larry moe 'n curly wrote: >> >>> Our hospitals are great; it's our private health insurance system >>> that's bad. >> >> Then we should fix them. What just got voted in the House yesterday >> is the equivalent of putting a tourniquet on your arm when you have a >> broken leg, with the result that you still have a broken leg, and now >> you also need your arm amputated. >> > > You seem to quite proud of that analogy, since you keep repeating it. > How about explaining the relevance. Yes - it's a pretty good analogy. I wouldn't think it would need to be explained, should be pretty obvious. But here it is: The action that was taken does not fix the problem (in my analogy - the leg is broken, but the "cure" does not fix the problem), *and* the action that was taken creates new problems that are even worse than the original problem that it was *claimed* was being "fixed" (what was previously a perfectly good arm has to now be amputated due to the action that was taken). So now, you are stuck with the original problem *and* a new, even worse, possibly irreversible, problem. That had to be explained? I mean - you recognized that it was an analogy. Yet you could not make the connections (and I have a sneaky feeling that will be the case, or at least will be pretended to be the case). If so, then there is no use in me explaining it further. The best I can do is to tell you to wait a few years if this is not overturned. At that time, the meaning will be obvious to you by then. -- Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x')
From: Canuck57 on 22 Mar 2010 21:46 On 22/03/2010 4:12 PM, Bill Putney wrote: > Canuck57 wrote: > >> I can't rememebr the polician that said this, and I will probably >> slight it. But they said America will not be conquered by outsiders, >> it is the enemy from within that is to fear the most. >> >> Well, the time has arived. A civil war of sorts. >> Liberal-losers-debtors on one side, and those on the other side >> getting dragged into the rabbit hole. > > OK - found the one I was reminded of - it may not be the one you had in > mind, but it was Samuel Adams: > > "A general dissolution of the principles and manners will more surely > overthrow the liberties of America than the whole force of the common > enemy.... While the people are virtuous they cannot be subdued; but once > they lose their virtue, they will be ready to surrender their liberties > to the first external or internal invader.... If virtue and knowledge > are diffused among the people, they will never be enslaved. This will be > their great security." > > Also: > "No people will tamely surrender their Liberties, nor can any be easily > subdued, when knowledge is diffused and Virtue is preserved. On the > Contrary, when People are universally ignorant, and debauched in their > Manners, they will sink under their own weight without the Aid of > foreign Invaders." > > The quotes were in two separate letters to James Warren. Both are good, but the one I am thinking of came in the 1900's. But both above are good. -- -------------- Politicians don't provide anything, the tax payers do.
From: Canuck57 on 22 Mar 2010 21:57
I did, and they are growing at 9% a year were even if you are an optimist, US is stagnent. At this rate, it will be less than 10 years and China will be the #1 by monitary exchange terms. But in reality, since the yan isn't hayper inflated like the USD is, they are already past the US. Their middle class _workforce_ is as large as Canada, US and Mexico combined has people. They can certainly now out manufacture the US. On 22/03/2010 10:41 AM, Mike Hunter wrote: > Actually if you do a search you will discover that the Chinese GDP is less > than half that of the US and well below Japan by 25%. > > > "Canuck57"<Canuck57(a)nospam.com> wrote in message > news:DbKpn.67041$gF5.34406(a)newsfe13.iad... >> On 21/03/2010 9:17 PM, edspyhill01 wrote: >>> On Mar 21, 9:08 pm, Canuck57<Canuc...(a)nospam.com> wrote: >>>> On 21/03/2010 4:04 PM, Mike Hunter wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> According to TV news, it appears Nancy Pelosi has bribed enough of the >>>>> Dims >>>>> to vote for a healthcare bill that will tax everyone to pay for nation >>>>> healthcare. The Medicaid provisions in that bill will also cause you >>>>> state >>>>> taxes to go up as well because the state must pay half of Medicaid. >>>> >>>>> FDR said, This day will live in infamy," after the Japs attacked Pearl >>>>> Harbor. Like December 7,1941 and September 11, 2001, March 21 2010 >>>>> will >>>>> also live in infamy as the most devastating attack on America. >>>> >>>>> In 1941 and 2001 we were attacked by our enemies. Today were will be >>>>> attacked by the worst possible enemy a county can have, the enemy >>>>> within. >>>>> We spent billions to fight our foreign enemies, but we will fight the >>>>> enemy >>>>> within with the strongest weapon in our arsenal, the ballot. >>>> >>>>> In 1941 I left school early to fight in WWII. I will be 84 on March >>>>> 22nd. >>>>> Years ago when I sold my fleet service business I set up trust funds >>>>> for all >>>>> of my grand children and great grand children. Since then I have been >>>>> endowing Hospitals and Colleges with my wealth. >>>> >>>>> From now on I will us my considerable wealth to help see the Supreme >>>>> Court >>>>> declare this law Un-Constitutional before I die. I intend to donate >>>>> $500,000 to the Sate of Florida to aid the AG in the court fight he and >>>>> 29 >>>>> mother states will bring the day after BO signs it into law. >>>> >>>>> In addition I will contribute to ANY candidate that runs in the >>>>> Primary, >>>>> including next months, against any of the Dims that voted to destroy >>>>> the >>>>> best Healthcare system in the world. I will also contribute to the >>>>> general >>>>> election campaign of ANY candidate, if the Dim that voted for that laws >>>>> wins >>>>> his primary >>>> >>>>> I suggest all Americans, that love this country, do whatever they can >>>>> to see >>>>> that none of the Dims that voted for that law are even elected to any >>>>> elected position again. >>>> >>>> Yep, all this debt, bailout, corruption, "free" health care and big fat >>>> government is going to cost Amricans big time. Get ready for a big fat >>>> national VAT or GST sales tax. You know, the kind other leftist >>>> statistim type nations like Canada and the UK have. And watch income >>>> tax rise. >>>> >>> >>> So what countries are governed "correctly" in your opinion? What >>> countries do you consider not leftist? >> >> None are perfect. But left-socialist and marxist all die eventually. Just >> takes time. >> >> China. It's free market is blowing away the US so bad, already >> outproduces America for autos. I figure inside a decade, they will have a >> GDP larger than the US itself and will repalce the US as number 1 >> superpower. In many ways they already have. >> -- >> Politicians don't provide anything, the tax payers do. > > -- -------------- Politicians don't provide anything, the tax payers do. |