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From: charlesgrozny on 23 Mar 2010 18:25 "Bill Putney" <bptn(a)kinez.net> wrote in message news:80sr62F36uU1(a)mid.individual.net... > Vic Smith wrote: > >> ...Unfortunately for me and my wife, we won't have a house anymore. >> It's not a fancy or big house, but we like it. > > Do I detect a contradiction there? You presently don't have a house > anymore, but you like it? Did you not meant to say what you said, or are > you having trouble keeping the story straight that you're trying to tell? > >> So I prefer to add to the wealth of insurance companies and keep my >> house. >> It's all simple economics. >> Determine who can confiscate your wealth, then pay the vigorish to >> prevent it. > > What the heck is "the vigorish"? You used the term twice. Never heard of > it. > Vigorish, 'the take' that a bookie rakes off of the money he gets. He must be from somewhere around Chicago. Charles Grozny
From: Bill Putney on 23 Mar 2010 18:27 charlesgrozny wrote: > "Bill Putney" <bptn(a)kinez.net> wrote in message > news:80sr62F36uU1(a)mid.individual.net... >> Vic Smith wrote: >>> ...Determine who can confiscate your wealth, then pay the vigorish to >>> prevent it. >> What the heck is "the vigorish"? You used the term twice. Never heard of >> it. >> > Vigorish, 'the take' that a bookie rakes off of the money he gets. He > must be from somewhere around Chicago. > > Charles Grozny OK - thanks. -- Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x')
From: Mike Hunter on 23 Mar 2010 18:28 You thing wrong, Walgreens is not longer accepting Medicare part "D" prescriptions. Call them and see for yourself. "Bill Putney" <bptn(a)kinez.net> wrote in message news:80spppFprqU2(a)mid.individual.net... > Mike Hunter wrote: > >> ...You might note that some pharmacies are no longer accepting Medicare >> reimbursements because of the new law. Walgreens is the latest one to >> announce. > > Actually I think it's Medicaid. But to the ignorant news media, they are > one and the same and facts don't matter, so you hear it reported as > Medicare as often as you do Medicaid. > > -- > Bill Putney > (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address > with the letter 'x')
From: Mike Hunter on 23 Mar 2010 18:32 You are wrong again, Washington is not the only state and it is not only new prescriptions. "dr_jeff" <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in message news:4BA9324D.2010309(a)msu.edu... > Bill Putney wrote: >> Mike Hunter wrote: >> >>> ...You might note that some pharmacies are no longer accepting Medicare >>> reimbursements because of the new law. Walgreens is the latest one to >>> announce. >> >> Actually I think it's Medicaid. But to the ignorant news media, they are >> one and the same and facts don't matter, so you hear it reported as >> Medicare as often as you do Medicaid. > > Good point. More accurately, there are over 50 Medicaid programs. Each > state has a different one. Walgreens is not accepting new patients in > Washinton (sic) state. Patients already using Walgreens will be able to > continue to use Walgreens, as well as patients in other states. > > The reason Walgreens gave is that the state reimburses less than the cost > of the drugs for 95% of the drugs. In other words, 19 out of 20 times, > they lose money selling Medicaid drugs to patients. > > Jeff
From: Mike Hunter on 23 Mar 2010 18:43
Let see if I have this right, 30,000,000 more people will be covered, including the most costly with pre-existing conditions, many will be subsidized and the gap in prescription drug coverage will be eliminated, businesses will be taxed more and they will NOT pass on that tax increase to the customer? If you believe that I have a bridge in Brooklyn for sale. LOL "Steve Stone" <n2ubp(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:hobdbv$82d$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > From the horses mouth. > Please tell me what is incorrect or left out here? > ---- > > > * This year, children with pre-existing conditions can no longer be > denied health insurance coverage. Once the new health insurance exchanges > begin in the coming years, pre-existing condition discrimination will > become a thing of the past for everyone. > * This year, health care plans will allow young people to remain on > their parents' insurance policy up until their 26th birthday. > * This year, insurance companies will be banned from dropping people > from coverage when they get sick, and they will be banned from > implementing lifetime caps on coverage. This year, restrictive annual > limits on coverage will be banned for certain plans. Under health > insurance reform, Americans will be ensured access to the care they need. > * This year, adults who are uninsured because of pre-existing > conditions will have access to affordable insurance through a temporary > subsidized high-risk pool. > * In the next fiscal year, the bill increases funding for community > health centers, so they can treat nearly double the number of patients > over the next five years. > * This year, we'll also establish an independent commission to advise > on how best to build the health care workforce and increase the number of > nurses, doctors and other professionals to meet our country's needs. > Going forward, we will provide $1.5 billion in funding to support the next > generation of doctors, nurses and other primary care practitioners -- on > top of a $500 million investment from the American Recovery and > Reinvestment Act. > > Health insurance reform will also curb some of the worst insurance > industry practices and strengthen consumer protections: > > * This year, this bill creates a new, independent appeals process that > ensures consumers in new private plans have access to an effective process > to appeal decisions made by their insurer. > * This year, discrimination based on salary will be outlawed. New > group health plans will be prohibited from establishing any eligibility > rules for health care coverage that discriminate in favor of higher-wage > employees. > * Beginning this fiscal year, this bill provides funding to states to > help establish offices of health insurance consumer assistance in order to > help individuals in the process of filing complaints or appeals against > insurance companies. > * Starting January 1, 2011, insurers in the individual and small group > market will be required to spend 80 percent of their premium dollars on > medical services. Insurers in the large group market will be required to > spend 85 percent of their premium dollars on medical services. Any > insurers who don't meet those thresholds will be required to provide > rebates to their policyholders. > * Starting in 2011, this bill helps states require insurance companies > to submit justification for requested premium increases. Any company with > excessive or unjustified premium increases may not be able to participate > in the new health insurance exchanges. > > Reform immediately begins to lower health care costs for American families > and small businesses: > > * This year, small businesses that choose to offer coverage will begin > to receive tax credits of up to 35 percent of premiums to help make > employee coverage more affordable. > * This year, new private plans will be required to provide free > preventive care: no co-payments and no deductibles for preventive > services. And beginning January 1, 2011, Medicare will do the same. > * This year, this bill will provide help for early retirees by > creating a temporary re-insurance program to help offset the costs of > expensive premiums for employers and retirees age 55-64. > * This year, this bill starts to close the Medicare Part D 'donut > hole' by providing a $250 rebate to Medicare beneficiaries who hit the gap > in prescription drug coverage. And beginning in 2011, the bill institutes > a 50% discount on prescription drugs in the 'donut hole.' > |