From: larry moe 'n curly on


hls wrote:
>
> "larry moe 'n curly" <larrymoencurly(a)my-deja.com> wrote in message
>
> > Show me some developed democracies with more expensive health care
> > systems than what we have.
>
> Define expense. We have one of the most expensive health care systems,
> to the recipient, in all the world.
>
> Some other societies subsidize it, and someone still has to pay, BUT
> they dont necessarily pay as much as the US does.

Percentage of GDP spent on health care, or median percentage of
personal income spent on health care. US is at 17% of GDP the next
expensive countries are at 12%.

> In the USA, health care is a monopoly of sorts. And it costs dearly.

Not because it's a monopoly. We have more competition than most
countries do. Britain, with its NHS, which provides most of the
doctors and hospitals and has one of the lowest costs, around 8% of
GDP. Japan, with a very different system, has about the same low
cost.

From: larry moe 'n curly on


Mike Hunter wrote:

> Or Michel Moore and Sean Penn, two millionaire air heads, that like
> Dictators. If they lived in Cuba or Argentina they would be digging ditches

It's amazing that even self-made rich guys can be absolute idiots with
crazy beliefs.

I didn't know Argentina was still a dictatorship that would force its
critics into hard labor. I thought it's authoritarian junta was
kicked out of power after Britain kicked Argentina out of the Falkland
Islands, over 25 years ago.
From: larry moe 'n curly on


Bill Putney wrote:
>
> larry moe 'n curly wrote:
>
> > Our hospitals are great; it's our private health insurance system
> > that's bad.
>
> Then we should fix them. What just got voted in the House yesterday is
> the equivalent of putting a tourniquet on your arm when you have a
> broken leg, with the result that you still have a broken leg, and now
> you also need your arm amputated.

So why does the bill pretty much give private insurers everything they
asked for? The industry said it would cover everybody if everybody
was required to be covered, and that's about what the Obama is going
to sign into law.

From: Dave on

"hls" <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote in message
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> "lil abner" <@daisey.mae> wrote in message news:nkxpn.104889
>> This is not democracy this is not our Constituion.
>> We are not a scoialst democracy or socialist state.
>
> We are now.
> Thanks to every dimwit who voted for this communist president, and
> also thanks to the Republicans who botched everything - including
> the campaign and election - and left us will little choice.
>
> Our next best chance is in November, when we can run these creeps
> out of office. I hope some independents manage to find their way
> into congress for in that way only will there be some chance of at least a
> few voices speaking for the people.
>

We are screwed, any way you look at it. These days, Repubs run as Dems and
Dems run as Repubs, just to get elected. Independents won't really be
independent, either. They alwaws have a finger in the air to see which way
the winds blowing.

From: Bill Putney on
larry moe 'n curly wrote:
>
> Bill Putney wrote:
>> larry moe 'n curly wrote:
>>
>>> Our hospitals are great; it's our private health insurance system
>>> that's bad.
>> Then we should fix them. What just got voted in the House yesterday is
>> the equivalent of putting a tourniquet on your arm when you have a
>> broken leg, with the result that you still have a broken leg, and now
>> you also need your arm amputated.
>
> So why does the bill pretty much give private insurers everything they
> asked for? The industry said it would cover everybody if everybody
> was required to be covered, and that's about what the Obama is going
> to sign into law.

But it doesn't increase competition. Let's talk in about 5 or 10 years
and see how that Obama thing is working for you (and everybody else).

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Bill Putney
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