Highway Patrol officer helped slow a runaway Toyota Prius from 94 mph to a safe stop
in [Toyota]
|
Prev: from cnn
Next: Highway Patrol officer helped slow a runaway Toyota Prius from 94 mph to a safe stop
From: Mike Hunter on 10 Mar 2010 10:49 Perhaps it would be better if Toyota fixed his car "Canuck57" <Canuck57(a)nospam.com> wrote in message news:QQMln.90235$Ye4.10875(a)newsfe11.iad... > On 09/03/2010 7:48 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> >> >> "Canuck57" <Canuck57(a)nospam.com> wrote >>> >>> Second issue is there is always neutral. They teach that in drivers ed >>> when I took it. Once in nuetral...problem is purely due care in >>> pulling over and turning it off. >> >> The news tonight had the recording of part of the 911 call: >> Operator: Did you try shifting to neutral? >> Driver: NO >> >> He later said he was afraid to because he thought the car might flip. He >> should have his license revoked. > > Agreed. He was obviously grandstanding. Maybe thought he was going to > get nipped for speeding. > > Also said something like he was busy controling the car to shift it, yet > he could dial 911 on the cell... > > Cops should yank his license. > -- > -------------- > Politicians don't provide anything, the tax payers do.
From: Mike Hunter on 10 Mar 2010 10:51 Apparently Toyota knew they had a problem when they printed the manual "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop(a)nastydesigns.com> wrote in message news:elmop-DFCEB6.06200010032010(a)nothing.attdns.com... > In article <4b96a36f$0$2888$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net>, > "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote: > >> Are you saying their are instruction in the Toyota owners manual that >> tells >> you what to do when your Toyota gets our of control and flies down the >> highway? > > Yes.
From: Mike Hunter on 10 Mar 2010 10:53 And it is getting worse, there was another video on TV news today of yet another Prius going out of control "jr92" <coachrose13(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:c99671f2-5149-4206-87a7-c37f408b3d56(a)q15g2000yqj.googlegroups.com... On Mar 9, 3:39 pm, "Obveeus" <Obve...(a)aol.com> wrote: > e"Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote in message > > news:4b96a406$0$2645$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net... > > > The press always takes notice when people are killed, especially 54 of > > them. When water leaks into the trunk, not so much > > 30,000+ people died in car accidents last year. Feel free to post a > breakdown by car manufacturer if you think Toyota is killing people. > Otherwise, your focus on these particular 54 vs. the hundreds/thousands of > others that died due to steering problems, airbag failures, poor crash > protection, inability to operate the vehicle, blind spots, etc... seems a > bit agenda based. There are a lot of drivers and passengers killed every year in automobile accidents. That is very sad. Drunk drivers kill a lot of people. Road conidtions are factors in fatal accidents, Excessive speed causes wrecks that kill people. Weather is a factor, as well. However, none of the above reasons I stated can be attributed to Toyota's lack of concern of safety. Any of the above reasons I listed, Toyota could NOT have any control over. BUT, the 54 people who died due to Toyota's lack of safety concerns can be pinned right on Toyota, the "King of Quality"! These guys have major issues to deal with.
From: Mike Hunter on 10 Mar 2010 10:54 YA THINK? "jr92" <coachrose13(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:a75e7924-0a0e-484a-98a3-f6618f2da1f7(a)j27g2000yqn.googlegroups.com... On Mar 9, 8:18 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstr...(a)frontiernet.net> wrote: > "Canuck57" <Canuc...(a)nospam.com> wrote in message > > news:wjCln.23038$wr5.20912(a)newsfe22.iad... > > > Third, there is the ignition. Turn it off long enough for it to stop and > > then to run (but not start) and coast. Works even without brakes! > > Might not be possible to set it back to run position with a pushbutton > ignition. Know what I mean? But, you and I can only offer conjecture > unless > we've used a Prius or read the manual. > > > So ask, why did it take this incopentat driver so long to do some basic > > steps? > > Because our system of testing drivers does not weed out the incompetent > ones, who comprise almost 90% of drivers on the road. Are you saying that it is alright for auto manufacturers to produce dangerous vehicles because the driver should be able to overcome anthing that fails, weather if be faulty steering, sudden acceleration, or bad brakes, if the driver is paying attention??????????????????? Are you tying to say that the driver, who paid tens of thousands of dollars for a vechicle he should reasonably assume will steer WHERE he wants it to go, accelerate WHEN he wants to (and NOT accererate when he does NOT WANT IT TOO), and stop WHEN he wants it to, should reasonably expect all these things????? Myself, I think if a person only paid 25 grand for a car, and it suddenly accelerated out of control or would not stop when the brakes were applied, it would HAVE to be the fault of the driver. After all, you only get what you pay for!!!!!!!!!!! OTOH, I really think that: One should not HAVE TO BE READY TO PUT THE TRANSMISSION IN NUTREAL IN CASE THE CAR SUDDENLY ACCELERATES OUT OF CONTROL!!!!!!!!!!!! The car should not do so in the first place!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! While a customer should not have to expect a car to rattle, or have a bad 'fit an finish" (lingo for the likes of Consumer Reports rap on the alleged "bad GM quality"), the same customer should expect his Toyota to STOP when he wants it to!!!!
From: Mike Hunter on 10 Mar 2010 10:56
Particularly when one is driving a Toyota it would appear, Joe$#itForBrains. "Joe$#itForBrains" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in message news:7pMln.64662$1n5.64405(a)newsfe04.iad... > "jr92" <coachrose13(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:a75e7924-0a0e-484a-98a3-f6618f2da1f7(a)j27g2000yqn.googlegroups.com... > On Mar 9, 8:18 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstr...(a)frontiernet.net> > wrote: >> "Canuck57" <Canuc...(a)nospam.com> wrote in message >> >> news:wjCln.23038$wr5.20912(a)newsfe22.iad... >> >> > Third, there is the ignition. Turn it off long enough for it to stop >> > and >> > then to run (but not start) and coast. Works even without brakes! >> >> Might not be possible to set it back to run position with a pushbutton >> ignition. Know what I mean? But, you and I can only offer conjecture >> unless >> we've used a Prius or read the manual. >> >> > So ask, why did it take this incopentat driver so long to do some basic >> > steps? >> >> Because our system of testing drivers does not weed out the incompetent >> ones, who comprise almost 90% of drivers on the road. > > Are you saying that it is alright for auto manufacturers to produce > dangerous vehicles because the driver should be able to overcome > anthing that fails, weather if be faulty steering, sudden > acceleration, or bad brakes, if the driver is paying > attention??????????????????? > > ================== > > I never said anything even remotely resembling what you want to believe I > said. > > ================== > > > Are you tying to say that the driver, who paid tens of thousands of > dollars for a vechicle he should reasonably assume will steer WHERE > he wants it to go, accelerate WHEN he wants to (and NOT accererate > when he does NOT WANT IT TOO), and stop WHEN he wants it to, should > reasonably expect all these things????? > > > ================== > > I never said anything even remotely resembling what you want to believe I > said. > > ================== > > Myself, I think if a person only paid 25 grand for a car, and it > suddenly accelerated out of control or would not stop when the brakes > were applied, it would HAVE to be the fault of the driver. After all, > you only get what you pay for!!!!!!!!!!! > > > OTOH, I really think that: > > > > One should not HAVE TO BE READY TO PUT THE TRANSMISSION IN NUTREAL IN > CASE THE CAR SUDDENLY ACCELERATES OUT OF CONTROL!!!!!!!!!!!! > > ================== > > By saying that, you have proven that I am correct when I say that about > 90% of drivers are and always will be unqualified to operate a motor > vehicle of any kind. A driver must be ready for absolutely ANYTHING. > |