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From: Daniel who wants to know on 10 Mar 2010 23:18 "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop(a)nastydesigns.com> wrote in message news:elmop-61AB10.13173509032010(a)nothing.attdns.com... > In article > <63afaded-a68d-4313-9f8e-034da9e19ad8(a)g19g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>, > TheTibetanMonkey <comandante.banana(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Another of these little MOWING MACHINES runs out of control. My take >> on the issue is that Toyota sends the engineers with the highest IQ to >> work at Lexus, while those with very low IQ are assigned to Toyota. I >> know because I once owned a little Toyota Tercel. UNSAFE AT ANY SPEED, >> you know... > > That's funny--I just tried this. Went out on the highway, floored it, > kept my foot on the floor, and at about 78mph moved the little shift > lever over to N. > > Voila. Drive system disengaged, gas engine went to idle--even with my > foot firmly on the floor. > > And that's exactly what's supposed to happen. > > That some morons don't know how to operate heavy machinery is not > Toyota's problem. > > You know what happens when people get drunk and prove that they're not > able to control the vehicle? We throw them in jail. You know what > happens when people throw away the owner's manual and claim that "I > don't need that--I know how to drive"? We let them drive. > > Go figure. Exactly. One of the videos here demonstrates what you did. http://lusciousgarage.com/blog/comments/floor_mat_anxiety_lg_tv_investigates/
From: jr92 on 10 Mar 2010 23:21 On Mar 10, 7:38 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstr...(a)frontiernet.net> wrote: > "jr92" <coachros...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:a75e7924-0a0e-484a-98a3-f6618f2da1f7(a)j27g2000yqn.googlegroups.com... > On Mar 9, 8:18 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstr...(a)frontiernet.net> > wrote: > > > > > > > "Canuck57" <Canuc...(a)nospam.com> wrote in message > > >news:wjCln.23038$wr5.20912(a)newsfe22.iad... > > > > Third, there is the ignition. Turn it off long enough for it to stop and > > > then to run (but not start) and coast. Works even without brakes! > > > Might not be possible to set it back to run position with a pushbutton > > ignition. Know what I mean? But, you and I can only offer conjecture > > unless > > we've used a Prius or read the manual. > > > > So ask, why did it take this incopentat driver so long to do some basic > > > steps? > > > Because our system of testing drivers does not weed out the incompetent > > ones, who comprise almost 90% of drivers on the road. > > Are you saying that it is alright for auto manufacturers to produce > dangerous vehicles because the driver should be able to overcome > anthing that fails, weather if be faulty steering, sudden > acceleration, or bad brakes, if the driver is paying > attention??????????????????? > > ================== > > I never said anything even remotely resembling what you want to believe I > said. > > ================== > > Are you tying to say that the driver, who paid tens of thousands of > dollars for a vechicle he should reasonably assume will steer WHERE > he wants it to go, accelerate WHEN he wants to (and NOT accererate > when he does NOT WANT IT TOO), and stop WHEN he wants it to, should > reasonably expect all these things????? > > ================== > > I never said anything even remotely resembling what you want to believe I > said. > > ================== > > Myself, I think if a person only paid 25 grand for a car, and it > suddenly accelerated out of control or would not stop when the brakes > were applied, it would HAVE to be the fault of the driver. After all, > you only get what you pay for!!!!!!!!!!! > > OTOH, I really think that: > > One should not HAVE TO BE READY TO PUT THE TRANSMISSION IN NUTREAL IN > CASE THE CAR SUDDENLY ACCELERATES OUT OF CONTROL!!!!!!!!!!!! > > ================== > > By saying that, you have proven that I am correct when I say that about 90% > of drivers are and always will be unqualified to operate a motor vehicle of > any kind. A driver must be ready for absolutely ANYTHING.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I guess you could include me in the 90% of drivers unqualified to drive, even though in 35 years and about a million miles (knock on wood), I have never been involved in an accident. Been lucky a few times, but I consider myself to be both a skilled and safe driver. However: I can see a driver not being prepared when his car, for no apparent reason, suddenly fully accelerates. I can see a driver not being prepard when his car, for no apparent reason, does not stop when he applies the brakes. I can see a driver not being prepared when his car, for no apparent reason, does not steer in the direction in which he wants it to. Especially in heavy traffic. Even if he is keeping a 'safe' distance from other traffic. Is this what we have come to expect from the "king of quality"???? Pay your 25 grand for our car, but be prepared in case it wont stop on it's own??? No one here is suggesting the cars should drive themselves, but gimme a break (not pun intended). Like I said, I guess you get what you pay for.
From: Paddy's Pig on 11 Mar 2010 01:42 "Michael" <mrdarrett(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:232701a8-e62c-45aa-9bbd-5146a51160f8(a)c37g2000prb.googlegroups.com... > "After the car decelerated to about 50 mph, Sikes turned off the engine > and coasted to a halt." > > Any reason he couldn't turn the engine off below 50 mph? correction... any reason he couldn't turn the engine off ABOVE 50 mph? He had a brain fart. Just like you. Sorry to harsh your "superior" buzz. -- Pat Durkin (clovers) http://tiny.cc/Z0EKR
From: Ed Pawlowski on 11 Mar 2010 05:52 "jr92" <coachrose13(a)hotmail.com> wrote > I can see a driver not being prepared when his car, for no apparent > reason, suddenly fully accelerates. > > I can see a driver not being prepard when his car, for no apparent > reason, does not stop when he applies the brakes. > > I can see a driver not being prepared when his car, for no apparent > reason, does not steer in the direction in which he wants it to. > > Especially in heavy traffic. > > Even if he is keeping a 'safe' distance from other traffic. > > > Is this what we have come to expect from the "king of quality"???? > > Pay your 25 grand for our car, but be prepared in case it wont stop on > it's own??? You do expect that any car will stop, go, turn when you want it to, however, I've had those things go wrong over the years on various cars I've driven. You have to have some modicum of training and ability to deal with those situations. Forget Toyota, it has happened with every brand of car at some point. Mechanical devices fail. Just as you should have a flashlight and candles in the house for the inevitable power failure, you should be mentally prepared for mechanical defects that will occur. Toyota is still on the hook for the real problem, but most of the situations can be lessened by an attentive driver. Especially now that is has received so much publicity and the news media has shown what to do.
From: JoeSpareBedroom on 11 Mar 2010 08:04
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop(a)nastydesigns.com> wrote in message news:elmop-17A10D.06571711032010(a)nothing.attdns.com... > In article <4b97c00b$0$27530$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net>, > "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote: > >> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop(a)nastydesigns.com> wrote in message >> news:elmop-DFCEB6.06200010032010(a)nothing.attdns.com... >> > In article <4b96a36f$0$2888$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net>, >> > "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote: >> > >> >> Are you saying their are instruction in the Toyota owners manual that >> >> tells >> >> you what to do when your Toyota gets our of control and flies down the >> >> highway? >> > >> > Yes. >> >> >> Apparently Toyota knew they had a problem when they printed the manual > > No, they simply acknowledge--as does every car manufacturer--that > anything could happen, so they document how to bring the car to a halt. Cut him some slack. He's too stubborn to go to an AA meeting. And, he thinks cars come with a jack and a spare because the manufacturers KNOW you're going to have a flat tire. |