From: JoeSpareBedroom on
"jr92" <coachrose13(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Mar 9, 8:18 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstr...(a)frontiernet.net>
wrote:
> "Canuck57" <Canuc...(a)nospam.com> wrote in message
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> > Third, there is the ignition. Turn it off long enough for it to stop and
> > then to run (but not start) and coast. Works even without brakes!
>
> Might not be possible to set it back to run position with a pushbutton
> ignition. Know what I mean? But, you and I can only offer conjecture
> unless
> we've used a Prius or read the manual.
>
> > So ask, why did it take this incopentat driver so long to do some basic
> > steps?
>
> Because our system of testing drivers does not weed out the incompetent
> ones, who comprise almost 90% of drivers on the road.

Are you saying that it is alright for auto manufacturers to produce
dangerous vehicles because the driver should be able to overcome
anthing that fails, weather if be faulty steering, sudden
acceleration, or bad brakes, if the driver is paying
attention???????????????????

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I never said anything even remotely resembling what you want to believe I
said.

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Are you tying to say that the driver, who paid tens of thousands of
dollars for a vechicle he should reasonably assume will steer WHERE
he wants it to go, accelerate WHEN he wants to (and NOT accererate
when he does NOT WANT IT TOO), and stop WHEN he wants it to, should
reasonably expect all these things?????


==================

I never said anything even remotely resembling what you want to believe I
said.

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Myself, I think if a person only paid 25 grand for a car, and it
suddenly accelerated out of control or would not stop when the brakes
were applied, it would HAVE to be the fault of the driver. After all,
you only get what you pay for!!!!!!!!!!!


OTOH, I really think that:



One should not HAVE TO BE READY TO PUT THE TRANSMISSION IN NUTREAL IN
CASE THE CAR SUDDENLY ACCELERATES OUT OF CONTROL!!!!!!!!!!!!

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By saying that, you have proven that I am correct when I say that about 90%
of drivers are and always will be unqualified to operate a motor vehicle of
any kind. A driver must be ready for absolutely ANYTHING.


From: Mike Hunter on
Once again our friend Canuck57 is telling us the sky is falling

"Canuck57" <Canuck57(a)nospam.com> wrote in message
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> On 09/03/2010 1:39 PM, Obveeus wrote:
>> e
>
> More likely the idiot was speeding and is using it as an excuse. Get some
> TV time.
>
> --
> --------------
> Politicians don't provide anything, the tax payers do.


From: Mike Hunter on
You missed the point, it would not have been necessary for him to do that,
if his car had not gone out of control.



"Ed Pawlowski" <esp(a)snetnospam.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Canuck57" <Canuck57(a)nospam.com> wrote
>>
>> Second issue is there is always neutral. They teach that in drivers ed
>> when I took it. Once in nuetral...problem is purely due care in pulling
>> over and turning it off.
>
> The news tonight had the recording of part of the 911 call:
> Operator: Did you try shifting to neutral?
> Driver: NO
>
> He later said he was afraid to because he thought the car might flip. He
> should have his license revoked.


From: Mike Hunter on
Except of course to answer the question, why did his Toyota get out of
control?


"Conscience" <nobama@g�v.com> wrote in message
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> On 2010-03-09 18:48:12 -0800, "Ed Pawlowski" <esp(a)snetnospam.net> said:
>
>>
>>
>> "Canuck57" <Canuck57(a)nospam.com> wrote
>>>
>>> Second issue is there is always neutral. They teach that in drivers ed
>>> when I took it. Once in nuetral...problem is purely due care in pulling
>>> over and turning it off.
>>
>> The news tonight had the recording of part of the 911 call:
>> Operator: Did you try shifting to neutral?
>> Driver: NO
>>
>> He later said he was afraid to because he thought the car might flip. He
>> should have his license revoked.
>
> Nothing more need be said.
>


From: Mike Hunter on
Even though their car was out of control?


"JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in message
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> "Ed Pawlowski" <esp(a)snetnospam.net> wrote in message
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>>
>>
>> "Canuck57" <Canuck57(a)nospam.com> wrote
>>>
>>> Second issue is there is always neutral. They teach that in drivers ed
>>> when I took it. Once in nuetral...problem is purely due care in pulling
>>> over and turning it off.
>>
>> The news tonight had the recording of part of the 911 call:
>> Operator: Did you try shifting to neutral?
>> Driver: NO
>>
>> He later said he was afraid to because he thought the car might flip. He
>> should have his license revoked.
>
>
> This is America, where we allow people to drive even if they're legally
> blind or clinically dead.
>