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From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 24 Nov 2009 20:26 On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:35:27 -0800, Jeff Strickland wrote: >> Yes I agree......Unfortunatly until these candidates get in there & see >> what's really going on I am always skeptical about anything they say in >> campaigns, it's a hard judgement to make but I think when they get into >> the office & REALITY smacks them in the face all that rhetoric & >> ideologoly they spewed goes right out the window. But I do agree again, >> so far things have been very disappointing, at least in my eyes. >> >> > That's true. If the box says Sony, you don't expect an Emerson inside ... > It seems people have not opened the new TV yet, and they are sitting > around staring at the box without opening it and looking inside. LOL! That just about sums it up! The packaging was so good, they're afraid to look at the product too closely!
From: Jeff Strickland on 24 Nov 2009 20:35 "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in message news:nB%Om.39825$X01.10784(a)newsfe07.iad... >> >> I guess there needs to be somebody that is disgusted, then you have to >> stand face to face with them. Right now, you have to stand in front of a >> mirror for your wildest dream to come true. Palin is small potatos when >> it comes to reasons why Republicans could not carry the election. > > What other reasons, besides Palin? > LOTS OF THEM. The main reason he was the nominee is Open Primaries. He was the last man standing thanks to Open Primaries. He's not the Republican that the Republicans chose, he's the Republican that the Independents and Democrates chose in Open Primary States. The Republican that the Republicans would have selected if primaries were closed would have been Huckabee or Romney, but not McCain. McCain was not the candidate that Republicans selected, he's the candidate that non-Republicans selected. I did not vote for McCain in my state's primaries. Most Republicans did not vote for McCain in their primaries. Most of the voters in the early primaries that went for McCain were cross-party voters in Open Primaries. That's a fact. He got most of the votes in Open Primary states. He got most of his votes there too. His campaign was not doing well even before he picked Palin. Then after he picked Palin, he locked her away from the very people she would attract to the ticket. She did not repel anybody, she only failed to attract the voters that McCain needed -- but she failed because the McCain Campaign locked her in a closet. Her interview with Couric went poorly, that's true. But if she had interviewed with an anchor/commentator that actually liked the McCain Campaign, it is clear that she would have fared better than she did with Couric. I'm confused that you would ask such a stupid question. After all, you read the book.
From: Jeff Strickland on 24 Nov 2009 20:43 "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message news:pan.2009.11.25.01.26.58.588744(a)e86.GTS... > On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:35:27 -0800, Jeff Strickland wrote: > >>> Yes I agree......Unfortunatly until these candidates get in there & see >>> what's really going on I am always skeptical about anything they say in >>> campaigns, it's a hard judgement to make but I think when they get into >>> the office & REALITY smacks them in the face all that rhetoric & >>> ideologoly they spewed goes right out the window. But I do agree again, >>> so far things have been very disappointing, at least in my eyes. >>> >>> >> That's true. If the box says Sony, you don't expect an Emerson inside ... >> It seems people have not opened the new TV yet, and they are sitting >> around staring at the box without opening it and looking inside. > > LOL! That just about sums it up! The packaging was so good, they're afraid > to look at the product too closely! > > > Exactly.
From: JoeSpareBedroom on 24 Nov 2009 20:44 "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:hei1kn$8qe$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in message > news:nB%Om.39825$X01.10784(a)newsfe07.iad... >>> >>> I guess there needs to be somebody that is disgusted, then you have to >>> stand face to face with them. Right now, you have to stand in front of a >>> mirror for your wildest dream to come true. Palin is small potatos when >>> it comes to reasons why Republicans could not carry the election. >> >> What other reasons, besides Palin? >> > > LOTS OF THEM. > > The main reason he was the nominee is Open Primaries. He was the last man > standing thanks to Open Primaries. > > He's not the Republican that the Republicans chose, he's the Republican > that the Independents and Democrates chose in Open Primary States. The > Republican that the Republicans would have selected if primaries were > closed would have been Huckabee or Romney, but not McCain. McCain was not > the candidate that Republicans selected, he's the candidate that > non-Republicans selected. I did not vote for McCain in my state's > primaries. Most Republicans did not vote for McCain in their primaries. > Most of the voters in the early primaries that went for McCain were > cross-party voters in Open Primaries. That's a fact. He got most of the > votes in Open Primary states. He got most of his votes there too. > > His campaign was not doing well even before he picked Palin. Then after he > picked Palin, he locked her away from the very people she would attract to > the ticket. She did not repel anybody, she only failed to attract the > voters that McCain needed -- but she failed because the McCain Campaign > locked her in a closet. > I suspect that her followers would've been challenged to actually find their voting places, if these people are any indication. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKKKgua7wQk > Her interview with Couric went poorly, that's true. But if she had > interviewed with an anchor/commentator that actually liked the McCain > Campaign, it is clear that she would have fared better than she did with > Couric. If a commentator liked the McCain campaign, how would the interview have been different? Seems to me Couric asked reasonable questions. Shouldn't all candidates have to field the same questions during interviews, just as they do during moderated debates?
From: Jeff Strickland on 24 Nov 2009 21:34
"JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in message news:4_%Om.39828$X01.8541(a)newsfe07.iad... > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:hei1kn$8qe$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> >> "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in message >> news:nB%Om.39825$X01.10784(a)newsfe07.iad... >>>> >>>> I guess there needs to be somebody that is disgusted, then you have to >>>> stand face to face with them. Right now, you have to stand in front of >>>> a mirror for your wildest dream to come true. Palin is small potatos >>>> when it comes to reasons why Republicans could not carry the election. >>> >>> What other reasons, besides Palin? >>> >> >> LOTS OF THEM. >> >> The main reason he was the nominee is Open Primaries. He was the last man >> standing thanks to Open Primaries. >> >> He's not the Republican that the Republicans chose, he's the Republican >> that the Independents and Democrates chose in Open Primary States. The >> Republican that the Republicans would have selected if primaries were >> closed would have been Huckabee or Romney, but not McCain. McCain was not >> the candidate that Republicans selected, he's the candidate that >> non-Republicans selected. I did not vote for McCain in my state's >> primaries. Most Republicans did not vote for McCain in their primaries. >> Most of the voters in the early primaries that went for McCain were >> cross-party voters in Open Primaries. That's a fact. He got most of the >> votes in Open Primary states. He got most of his votes there too. >> >> His campaign was not doing well even before he picked Palin. Then after >> he picked Palin, he locked her away from the very people she would >> attract to the ticket. She did not repel anybody, she only failed to >> attract the voters that McCain needed -- but she failed because the >> McCain Campaign locked her in a closet. >> > > I suspect that her followers would've been challenged to actually find > their voting places, if these people are any indication. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKKKgua7wQk > > > > >> Her interview with Couric went poorly, that's true. But if she had >> interviewed with an anchor/commentator that actually liked the McCain >> Campaign, it is clear that she would have fared better than she did with >> Couric. > > > If a commentator liked the McCain campaign, how would the interview have > been different? Seems to me Couric asked reasonable questions. Shouldn't > all candidates have to field the same questions during interviews, just as > they do during moderated debates? > Couric's hostility was evident to everyone but you, apparently. |