From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:34:41 -0800, Jeff Strickland wrote:

>
> I don't think Palin ran the McCain Train off the rails. I think he was off
> the rails already.

She didn't help with the moderates, and certainly drove the Liberals
screaming and running (but, that doesn't take much, does it?)

I know a lot of people who would have voted for McCain, but ended up
voting for the Teleprompter-In-Chief because of Palin.



From: JoeSpareBedroom on
"ByTor" <ByTor(a)snowdog.com> wrote in message
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> In article <o8ZOm.39776$X01.748(a)newsfe07.iad>, newstrash(a)frontiernet.net
> says...
>>
>> "ByTor" <ByTor(a)snowdog.com> wrote in message
>> news:0088318f$0$23808$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com...
>> >>
>> >> http://www.pbs.org/wnet/religionandethics/week735/exclusive.html
>> >
>> > A very interesting read but..............
>> >
>> > I think I would have to have a position in order to offer some kind of
>> > opinion on what the premise of that article was about, religion. I
>> > think
>> > in all fairness I would say that I'm neutral about it but more leaning
>> > on the side that it's a non-issue for me. I have my own personal
>> > opinions about the issues that are discussed but it's definately not
>> > motivated from a *religious* aspect as I am *not* a practicing
>> > anything.
>> > I personally don't care for all this religious stuff influencing
>> > anything, but I do have to be open minded & fair because a majority of
>> > this country & the world believes in some sort of being, while I don't,
>> > I still respect religious beliefs, and I am by no means one of those
>> > atheist/agnostics that will go out of my way to shove my beliefs down
>> > their throats either.....I just ask to repectfully be left alone.
>> >
>> > What I don't respect is *interference* by religion in government
>> > affairs. But Cuomo did say that the seperation of church & state is a
>> > *curtain* & not well defined, unfortunately though religious beliefs do
>> > play a key part in our elections as well. I wish the abortion issue
>> > would go away at every election, I think we may actually get something
>> > done if that's not *ALWAYS* a major issue every election & influences
>> > votes but it is a reality in our society. Look what's happening with
>> > the
>> > healthcare debate, it's boiling down to once again a religious issue???
>> > Can't get away from it.........;0)
>> >
>>
>>
>> No politician is sincere when they inject religion into politics. It's a
>> tool, a ploy, or whatever you want to call it. That's why I use the term
>> "fake saints" to describe these politicians. Here's a perfect and
>> prominent
>> example of a fake saint using religion to turn around his political
>> fortunes:
>>
>> http://www.slate.com/id/2161566/
>
> Like I said Joe its hard for me to discuss an issue like this & I'm not
> suprised that there is hypocrisy as you are pointing out with the above
> article. I don't hold politicians to *high* standards like that, but I
> would have to agree to the phrase "walk the talk" but that rarely
> happens in politics & people's personal lives, I don't get caught up in
> all these stupid scandals, no one is perfect.........But what's
> happening & what is speculated about the demise of the republican party
> is that these politicians are *bending* their principles instead of
> standing by them.


At least we can have a sense of humor about the slime, and do whatever is
necessary to not let anyone forget what they did. :-)

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c197/ancientangler/RepublicanHypocrites.jpg?t=1259108741


From: JoeSpareBedroom on
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
> news:pan.2009.11.24.23.33.26.131015(a)e86.GTS...
>> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:34:41 -0800, Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I don't think Palin ran the McCain Train off the rails. I think he was
>>> off
>>> the rails already.
>>
>> She didn't help with the moderates, and certainly drove the Liberals
>> screaming and running (but, that doesn't take much, does it?)
>>
>> I know a lot of people who would have voted for McCain, but ended up
>> voting for the Teleprompter-In-Chief because of Palin.
>>
>>
>>
>
> I don't know anybody that didn't vote McCain because Palin was on the
> ticket, except JoeShitForBrains who claims he didn't vote FOR Obama, he
> just voted AGAINST Palin.


Why is it that I have yet to meet one single person face-to-face who is not
disgusted with the fact that the Republican party allowed Palin to run for
VP? It seems like people are ashamed to admit that, except in venues like
this one where nobody can see their faces.


From: Jeff Strickland on

"JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:DT_Om.39781$X01.6876(a)newsfe07.iad...
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:hehrbd$kmm$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>> news:pan.2009.11.24.23.33.26.131015(a)e86.GTS...
>>> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:34:41 -0800, Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't think Palin ran the McCain Train off the rails. I think he was
>>>> off
>>>> the rails already.
>>>
>>> She didn't help with the moderates, and certainly drove the Liberals
>>> screaming and running (but, that doesn't take much, does it?)
>>>
>>> I know a lot of people who would have voted for McCain, but ended up
>>> voting for the Teleprompter-In-Chief because of Palin.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I don't know anybody that didn't vote McCain because Palin was on the
>> ticket, except JoeShitForBrains who claims he didn't vote FOR Obama, he
>> just voted AGAINST Palin.
>
>
> Why is it that I have yet to meet one single person face-to-face who is
> not disgusted with the fact that the Republican party allowed Palin to run
> for VP? It seems like people are ashamed to admit that, except in venues
> like this one where nobody can see their faces.
>

I guess there needs to be somebody that is disgusted, then you have to stand
face to face with them. Right now, you have to stand in front of a mirror
for your wildest dream to come true. Palin is small potatos when it comes to
reasons why Republicans could not carry the election.

But, your question is beside the point. Again. Why do even bother?










From: JoeSpareBedroom on
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in message
> news:DT_Om.39781$X01.6876(a)newsfe07.iad...
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:hehrbd$kmm$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>>
>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>>> news:pan.2009.11.24.23.33.26.131015(a)e86.GTS...
>>>> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:34:41 -0800, Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think Palin ran the McCain Train off the rails. I think he was
>>>>> off
>>>>> the rails already.
>>>>
>>>> She didn't help with the moderates, and certainly drove the Liberals
>>>> screaming and running (but, that doesn't take much, does it?)
>>>>
>>>> I know a lot of people who would have voted for McCain, but ended up
>>>> voting for the Teleprompter-In-Chief because of Palin.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know anybody that didn't vote McCain because Palin was on the
>>> ticket, except JoeShitForBrains who claims he didn't vote FOR Obama, he
>>> just voted AGAINST Palin.
>>
>>
>> Why is it that I have yet to meet one single person face-to-face who is
>> not disgusted with the fact that the Republican party allowed Palin to
>> run for VP? It seems like people are ashamed to admit that, except in
>> venues like this one where nobody can see their faces.
>>
>
> I guess there needs to be somebody that is disgusted, then you have to
> stand face to face with them. Right now, you have to stand in front of a
> mirror for your wildest dream to come true. Palin is small potatos when it
> comes to reasons why Republicans could not carry the election.

What other reasons, besides Palin?