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From: ByTor on 24 Nov 2009 12:40 In article <ZSUOm.78259$Wf2.66076(a)newsfe23.iad>, newstrash(a)frontiernet.net says... > > "ByTor" <ByTor(a)snowdog.com> wrote in message > news:0084a1cf$0$1493$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > > In article <JkUOm.37672$We2.18825(a)newsfe09.iad>, > > newstrash(a)frontiernet.net says... > >> > >> "ByTor" <ByTor(a)snowdog.com> wrote in message > >> news:0087e57b$0$23687$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > >> >> > As I always say, motivation is about *self* preservation for these > >> >> > politicians......it's a shame really & I have no furthur energy to > >> >> > argue > >> >> > against it anymore.......very disappointing indeed. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Remember when Mario Cuomo briefly made some noise about running for > >> >> president and the idea got shot down by I-don't-know-who? What did you > >> >> think > >> >> of him as a possible candidate? > >> > > >> > Mario Cuomo I'm not sure about, I don't have much faith honestly with > >> > Democrats these days to even consider what his *actual* motivations > >> > are. > >> > I would have to know what his current positions are on things to even > >> > consider an opinion. If he's just another candidate to push an *agenda* > >> > machine of the us against them mentality than I would have serious > >> > doubts, it would be just business as usual again.........But to be fair > >> > I will also accuse the republican party of the same thing come 2012, I > >> > hope not but I'm sure my suspicions will be correct, these politicians > >> > are totally detached from the actual *will* of the people they > >> > represent. > >> > >> > >> It's all past tense anyway. He's stepped away from public life, other > >> than > >> the occasional commentary on news shows. What I liked about him is that > >> he > >> was able to talk about how his religion (Catholic) affected his views, > >> while > >> at the same time explaining that it was the responsibility of politicians > >> to > >> make decisions according to what they felt their constituents wanted, > >> even > >> if it contradicts a politician's own beliefs. > > > > If that's the case than I would listen to him. I was young during his > > career and obviously not very interested as I was doing my own things so > > forming a *quick* opinion would be irresponsible on my part. I did > > briefly go to wikpedia and did see a mention about his views based on > > his religion & his opposition to the death penalty. But it is past tense > > as you say, people change over the years so who knows. His son Andrew on > > the otherhand, I'm still pissed about his internet bullshit that he > > pulled but that's another issue.......;0) > > > >> Unfortunately, he used too many big words for most people, so his message > >> never gained much traction with certain "types". > > > > Not sure what ya mean by *certain* types, or maybe I do, but I refuse to > > go there no matter how much ya try & drag me into it.....(LMAO) > > > Here's the "type". I knew one would come along as soon as I mentioned Cuomo. > :-) It's like catching sunfish. Stupid little fish. > > As a wise man in Baltimore told me.....Cuomo is twenty thousand > zero's.... > Scott in Florida You 2 need to get a room.........(LMAO)
From: JoeSpareBedroom on 24 Nov 2009 12:46 "ByTor" <ByTor(a)snowdog.com> wrote in message news:0087eac1$0$17016$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > In article <ZSUOm.78259$Wf2.66076(a)newsfe23.iad>, > newstrash(a)frontiernet.net says... >> >> "ByTor" <ByTor(a)snowdog.com> wrote in message >> news:0084a1cf$0$1493$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >> > In article <JkUOm.37672$We2.18825(a)newsfe09.iad>, >> > newstrash(a)frontiernet.net says... >> >> >> >> "ByTor" <ByTor(a)snowdog.com> wrote in message >> >> news:0087e57b$0$23687$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >> >> >> > As I always say, motivation is about *self* preservation for >> >> >> > these >> >> >> > politicians......it's a shame really & I have no furthur energy >> >> >> > to >> >> >> > argue >> >> >> > against it anymore.......very disappointing indeed. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Remember when Mario Cuomo briefly made some noise about running for >> >> >> president and the idea got shot down by I-don't-know-who? What did >> >> >> you >> >> >> think >> >> >> of him as a possible candidate? >> >> > >> >> > Mario Cuomo I'm not sure about, I don't have much faith honestly >> >> > with >> >> > Democrats these days to even consider what his *actual* motivations >> >> > are. >> >> > I would have to know what his current positions are on things to >> >> > even >> >> > consider an opinion. If he's just another candidate to push an >> >> > *agenda* >> >> > machine of the us against them mentality than I would have serious >> >> > doubts, it would be just business as usual again.........But to be >> >> > fair >> >> > I will also accuse the republican party of the same thing come 2012, >> >> > I >> >> > hope not but I'm sure my suspicions will be correct, these >> >> > politicians >> >> > are totally detached from the actual *will* of the people they >> >> > represent. >> >> >> >> >> >> It's all past tense anyway. He's stepped away from public life, other >> >> than >> >> the occasional commentary on news shows. What I liked about him is >> >> that >> >> he >> >> was able to talk about how his religion (Catholic) affected his views, >> >> while >> >> at the same time explaining that it was the responsibility of >> >> politicians >> >> to >> >> make decisions according to what they felt their constituents wanted, >> >> even >> >> if it contradicts a politician's own beliefs. >> > >> > If that's the case than I would listen to him. I was young during his >> > career and obviously not very interested as I was doing my own things >> > so >> > forming a *quick* opinion would be irresponsible on my part. I did >> > briefly go to wikpedia and did see a mention about his views based on >> > his religion & his opposition to the death penalty. But it is past >> > tense >> > as you say, people change over the years so who knows. His son Andrew >> > on >> > the otherhand, I'm still pissed about his internet bullshit that he >> > pulled but that's another issue.......;0) >> > >> >> Unfortunately, he used too many big words for most people, so his >> >> message >> >> never gained much traction with certain "types". >> > >> > Not sure what ya mean by *certain* types, or maybe I do, but I refuse >> > to >> > go there no matter how much ya try & drag me into it.....(LMAO) >> >> >> Here's the "type". I knew one would come along as soon as I mentioned >> Cuomo. >> :-) It's like catching sunfish. Stupid little fish. >> >> As a wise man in Baltimore told me.....Cuomo is twenty thousand >> zero's.... >> Scott in Florida > > You 2 need to get a room.........(LMAO) Never mind him. http://www.pbs.org/wnet/religionandethics/week735/exclusive.html
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 24 Nov 2009 17:11 On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:32:25 -0500, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >> I'd agree that McCain hosed himself with picking Palin but in all >> fairness the spread of votes really weren't that far apart so I guess >> that other almost 1/2 of the country didn't feel as hesitant. McCain had >> one *HUGE* advantage in the *emotional* vote, he was a war hero & people >> do respect that and put it in high regard, especially the tortures he >> endured, but in my view I did not allow that to *cloud* my judgement of >> him. Calling him frail & some of the other demeaning things they have >> said about him I think disrespects him & I would refuse to fall along >> that line of thinking.........I mean look what they did to Bob Dole, I >> found that dispicable & uncalled for. > > > This country has missed out on having quite a few highly qualified people > in the White House. That's just the way it is. Lee Iacocca said the best > executives would never take the job because they could never put up with > the long, drawn out process involved with getting things done. This is possibly the one single smartest post you have ever posted here. Bravo!
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 24 Nov 2009 17:12 On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 09:50:30 -0500, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >> >> Those pics in Runner's World...if I wree a teenage boy, I'd be having >> fantasies... > > > You are, and you are. Damn. Saw right through me...
From: ByTor on 24 Nov 2009 17:20
In article <LZUOm.78264$Wf2.1780(a)newsfe23.iad>, newstrash(a)frontiernet.net says... > > "ByTor" <ByTor(a)snowdog.com> wrote in message > news:0087eac1$0$17016$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > > In article <ZSUOm.78259$Wf2.66076(a)newsfe23.iad>, > > newstrash(a)frontiernet.net says... > >> > >> "ByTor" <ByTor(a)snowdog.com> wrote in message > >> news:0084a1cf$0$1493$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > >> > In article <JkUOm.37672$We2.18825(a)newsfe09.iad>, > >> > newstrash(a)frontiernet.net says... > >> >> > >> >> "ByTor" <ByTor(a)snowdog.com> wrote in message > >> >> news:0087e57b$0$23687$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > >> >> >> > As I always say, motivation is about *self* preservation for > >> >> >> > these > >> >> >> > politicians......it's a shame really & I have no furthur energy > >> >> >> > to > >> >> >> > argue > >> >> >> > against it anymore.......very disappointing indeed. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Remember when Mario Cuomo briefly made some noise about running for > >> >> >> president and the idea got shot down by I-don't-know-who? What did > >> >> >> you > >> >> >> think > >> >> >> of him as a possible candidate? > >> >> > > >> >> > Mario Cuomo I'm not sure about, I don't have much faith honestly > >> >> > with > >> >> > Democrats these days to even consider what his *actual* motivations > >> >> > are. > >> >> > I would have to know what his current positions are on things to > >> >> > even > >> >> > consider an opinion. If he's just another candidate to push an > >> >> > *agenda* > >> >> > machine of the us against them mentality than I would have serious > >> >> > doubts, it would be just business as usual again.........But to be > >> >> > fair > >> >> > I will also accuse the republican party of the same thing come 2012, > >> >> > I > >> >> > hope not but I'm sure my suspicions will be correct, these > >> >> > politicians > >> >> > are totally detached from the actual *will* of the people they > >> >> > represent. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> It's all past tense anyway. He's stepped away from public life, other > >> >> than > >> >> the occasional commentary on news shows. What I liked about him is > >> >> that > >> >> he > >> >> was able to talk about how his religion (Catholic) affected his views, > >> >> while > >> >> at the same time explaining that it was the responsibility of > >> >> politicians > >> >> to > >> >> make decisions according to what they felt their constituents wanted, > >> >> even > >> >> if it contradicts a politician's own beliefs. > >> > > >> > If that's the case than I would listen to him. I was young during his > >> > career and obviously not very interested as I was doing my own things > >> > so > >> > forming a *quick* opinion would be irresponsible on my part. I did > >> > briefly go to wikpedia and did see a mention about his views based on > >> > his religion & his opposition to the death penalty. But it is past > >> > tense > >> > as you say, people change over the years so who knows. His son Andrew > >> > on > >> > the otherhand, I'm still pissed about his internet bullshit that he > >> > pulled but that's another issue.......;0) > >> > > >> >> Unfortunately, he used too many big words for most people, so his > >> >> message > >> >> never gained much traction with certain "types". > >> > > >> > Not sure what ya mean by *certain* types, or maybe I do, but I refuse > >> > to > >> > go there no matter how much ya try & drag me into it.....(LMAO) > >> > >> > >> Here's the "type". I knew one would come along as soon as I mentioned > >> Cuomo. > >> :-) It's like catching sunfish. Stupid little fish. > >> > >> As a wise man in Baltimore told me.....Cuomo is twenty thousand > >> zero's.... > >> Scott in Florida > > > > You 2 need to get a room.........(LMAO) > > > Never mind him. > > http://www.pbs.org/wnet/religionandethics/week735/exclusive.html A very interesting read but.............. I think I would have to have a position in order to offer some kind of opinion on what the premise of that article was about, religion. I think in all fairness I would say that I'm neutral about it but more leaning on the side that it's a non-issue for me. I have my own personal opinions about the issues that are discussed but it's definately not motivated from a *religious* aspect as I am *not* a practicing anything. I personally don't care for all this religious stuff influencing anything, but I do have to be open minded & fair because a majority of this country & the world believes in some sort of being, while I don't, I still respect religious beliefs, and I am by no means one of those atheist/agnostics that will go out of my way to shove my beliefs down their throats either.....I just ask to repectfully be left alone. What I don't respect is *interference* by religion in government affairs. But Cuomo did say that the seperation of church & state is a *curtain* & not well defined, unfortunately though religious beliefs do play a key part in our elections as well. I wish the abortion issue would go away at every election, I think we may actually get something done if that's not *ALWAYS* a major issue every election & influences votes but it is a reality in our society. Look what's happening with the healthcare debate, it's boiling down to once again a religious issue??? Can't get away from it.........;0) |