{BS} Movement afoot to drop "anchor babies"
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From: ah on 10 Aug 2010 22:44 On 8/9/2010 9:25 PM, Aratzio wrote: > On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 19:19:07 -0500, in the land of alt.aratzio, > pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got double secret probation for writing: > >>On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 19:57:17 -0400, ah wrote: >> >>> On 8/8/2010 7:37 PM, pandora wrote: >>>> On Sat, 07 Aug 2010 21:18:08 -0400, ah wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 8/7/2010 6:30 PM, Aratzio wrote: >>>>>> On Sat, 07 Aug 2010 17:04:44 -0400, in the land of alt.aratzio, ah >>>>>> <splifingate(a)gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On 8/7/2010 9:30 AM, Aratzio wrote: >>>>>>>> On Sat, 07 Aug 2010 06:29:03 -0400, in the land of alt.aratzio, ah >>>>>>>> <splifingate(a)gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>On 8/6/2010 9:55 PM, Aratzio wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 19:41:05 -0400, in the land of alt.aratzio, >>>>>>>>>> ah <splifingate(a)gmail.com> got double secret probation for >>>>>>>>>> writing: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>On 8/5/2010 11:30 PM, Aratzio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 21:47:21 -0400, in the land of alt.aratzio, >>>>>>>>>>>> ah <splifingate(a)gmail.com> got double secret probation for >>>>>>>>>>>> writing: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>On 8/4/2010 9:16 PM, Aratzio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 20:05:26 -0400, in the land of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> alt.aratzio, ah <splifingate(a)gmail.com> got double secret >>>>>>>>>>>>>> probation for writing: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On 8/3/2010 9:57 PM, Aratzio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 12:54:05 -0500, in the land of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alt.aratzio, pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got double secret >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probation for writing: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 15:58:23 -0700, Aratzio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 14:33:51 -0500, in the land of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alt.aratzio, pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got double secret >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probation for writing: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It is certainly beginning to look that way. What is it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>about these idiots that makes them HATE the US and all >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that it stands for? They aren't ONLY interested in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>getting their own but doing their best to keep everyone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>else from getting anything at all. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nutshell, the middle class is disappearing and tey feel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threatened. It is not that the poor or less fortunate are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rising to their level so much as they are dropping the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the lower rungs of the economic ladder. What they see as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their historical perogative is being stripped away. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>That is a distinct possibility. So, it's really all a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>class struggle with a touch of racism thrown in for good >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>measure? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Racism in the sense that they feel those beneath them on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the economic ladder are less important. Since most of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people they see as being below them are minorities the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anger is then directed at the minorities. There is actual >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> racism there is no doubt but if you were to put most of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them in front of a person of color there would not be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> racism. It is more a generalized feeling than an actual >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought process. Classic example is the interviews of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Teabaggers holding racist signs and they don't even have a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clue it is a racist sign. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The anger should be directed at those that are stripping >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> away the middle class and destroying our ability to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> manufacture. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> These angry people are the same people that scream and rant >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about any cuts to military spending but do not realize that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same stripping of manufacturing capability will also >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> destroy our long term ability to defend ourselves. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The loss of the middle class with bankrupt the nation and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at that point we will no longer have the economic or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> military ability to defend ourselves. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The sad thing is the people they support are the people >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who have done the most damage to the middle class in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> USA to favor their rich contributors. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Absolutely agreed! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They firmly believe that they too will one day be part of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ruling class, because the ruling class keeps lying to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them about their ability to become the ruling class. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Oh, but we'll all be millionaires, one day! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Umm, err, what if one already is? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>braggart! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I dinna sez I werz. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I wished to know what we do with the ones already there? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Provide essential services, of course ;) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Wine & Cheese? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>rol Something like that. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Me ain't in them classerz. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>I just do things for 'em; things that they don't want to do. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Beer & Pretzels. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Stout and pork-rinds. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>TYVM. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ale & Pickled Eggs <FART> >>>>> >>>>> Port and FETA. >>>> >>>> Schnapps and pickled herring. >>> >>> Kentucky Gentleman and tilapia. >> >>Banrock Station Shiraz and Brie (on onion crackers) > > 2006 William-Selyem Precious Mountain Pinot Noir and Danish Bleu Hurricane and skittles. -- a "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Nv28lunRSY" h
From: Aratzio on 10 Aug 2010 22:46 On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 22:43:44 -0400, in the land of alt.aratzio, ah <splifingate(a)gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing: >On 8/9/2010 8:52 PM, Aratzio wrote: >> On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 19:52:36 -0400, in the land of alt.autos.toyota, >> ah <splifingate(a)gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing: >> >>>On 8/8/2010 8:14 PM, Aratzio wrote: >>>> On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 16:15:00 -0400, in the land of alt.aratzio, ah >>>> <splifingate(a)gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing: >>>> >>>>>On 8/8/2010 1:27 AM, Aratzio wrote: >>>>>> On Sat, 07 Aug 2010 21:18:08 -0400, in the land of alt.aratzio, ah >>>>>> <splifingate(a)gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On 8/7/2010 6:30 PM, Aratzio wrote: >>>>>>>> On Sat, 07 Aug 2010 17:04:44 -0400, in the land of alt.aratzio, ah >>>>>>>> <splifingate(a)gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>On 8/7/2010 9:30 AM, Aratzio wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 07 Aug 2010 06:29:03 -0400, in the land of alt.aratzio, ah >>>>>>>>>> <splifingate(a)gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>On 8/6/2010 9:55 PM, Aratzio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 19:41:05 -0400, in the land of alt.aratzio, ah >>>>>>>>>>>> <splifingate(a)gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>On 8/5/2010 11:30 PM, Aratzio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 21:47:21 -0400, in the land of alt.aratzio, ah >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <splifingate(a)gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On 8/4/2010 9:16 PM, Aratzio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 20:05:26 -0400, in the land of alt.aratzio, ah >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <splifingate(a)gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On 8/3/2010 9:57 PM, Aratzio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 12:54:05 -0500, in the land of alt.aratzio, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got double secret probation for writing: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 15:58:23 -0700, Aratzio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 14:33:51 -0500, in the land of alt.aratzio, pandora >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <pandora(a)peak.org> got double secret probation for writing: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It is certainly beginning to look that way. What is it about these >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>idiots that makes them HATE the US and all that it stands for? They >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>aren't ONLY interested in getting their own but doing their best to keep >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>everyone else from getting anything at all. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nutshell, the middle class is disappearing and tey feel threatened. It >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is not that the poor or less fortunate are rising to their level so much >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as they are dropping the the lower rungs of the economic ladder. What >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they see as their historical perogative is being stripped away. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>That is a distinct possibility. So, it's really all a class struggle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>with a touch of racism thrown in for good measure? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Racism in the sense that they feel those beneath them on the economic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ladder are less important. Since most of the people they see as being >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> below them are minorities the anger is then directed at the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minorities. There is actual racism there is no doubt but if you were >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to put most of them in front of a person of color there would not be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> racism. It is more a generalized feeling than an actual thought >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process. Classic example is the interviews of the Teabaggers holding >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> racist signs and they don't even have a clue it is a racist sign. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The anger should be directed at those that are stripping away the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> middle class and destroying our ability to manufacture. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> These angry people are the same people that scream and rant about any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cuts to military spending but do not realize that same stripping of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> manufacturing capability will also destroy our long term ability to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> defend ourselves. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The loss of the middle class with bankrupt the nation and at that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point we will no longer have the economic or military ability to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> defend ourselves. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The sad thing is the people they support are the people who have done >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the most damage to the middle class in the USA to favor their rich >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contributors. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Absolutely agreed! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They firmly believe that they too will one day be part of the ruling >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> class, because the ruling class keeps lying to them about their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ability to become the ruling class. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Oh, but we'll all be millionaires, one day! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Umm, err, what if one already is? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>braggart! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I dinna sez I werz. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wished to know what we do with the ones already there? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Provide essential services, of course ;) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Wine & Cheese? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>rol Something like that. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Me ain't in them classerz. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>I just do things for 'em; things that they don't want to do. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Beer & Pretzels. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Stout and pork-rinds. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>TYVM. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ale & Pickled Eggs <FART> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Port and FETA. >>>>>> >>>>>> Urrr, no. >>>>>> >>>>>> Port & Chocolate. >>>>> >>>>>ew >>>> >>>> Better than cigars >>> >>>Apart from a singular cheroot-like Dutch I enjoyed post-borst (yes, /that/ >>>borst) with an exile from the pogroms of the post-Nazi era, I wholeheartedly >>>agree with this assessment. >> >> The gentlemen shall retire to the study for Port & Cigars... >> >> (A cousin of my mother is married to a Wrigley, that was announced >> after a dinner in Arizona some years ago) > >Forced cigars could be construed as torture. Hanging out with Wrigleys most assuredly was.
From: PrecisionmachinisT on 10 Aug 2010 23:17 "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message news:i3suur$v95$3(a)news.albasani.net... > On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 18:24:57 -0700, PrecisionmachinisT wrote: > > > > > "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message > > news:zbl8o.56972$dx7.18496(a)newsfe21.iad... > >> On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 07:52:39 -0400, Cliff wrote: > >> > >> >>> Now, WHY should we grant them Residence, when they did not follow the > >> >>> normal channels to get here? > >> > > >> > The US has a higher quota for England than for Mexico. > >> > And wingers are full of BS anyway. The number of "illegals" in the US > >> > has dropped by about a million between 2008 and 2009. > >> > >> Yeah. There were no jobs and no more welfare, so they went HOME! > >> > > > > The number of criminal deportations for the year 2010 are on track nearly > > double as compared to those which occurred during Bush's final year in > > office. > > Do you have any idea how long they are held in Federal prisons before > actually being deported? Why of course....a few are doing life and will never get out... > > It can take many, many years, 4-5 not being uncommon. > Only in the case of serious crime where there is a lengthy prison sentence is involved.... > Nice try, but Obammer didn't have a lot to do with it. Unless it was not an overly serious crime--in the absence of a lengthy prison sentence, deportation can often take as little as few weeks...with 5 or 6 not being uncommon. --except for putting food on the tables of those who earn a living as prison and border guards I'm firly well convinced that the $600 million that Obama just spent on immigration enforcement in Arizona will have zero effect on the so--called "problem" IOW, a very substantial amount of the federal money which currently flows into Arizona is entirely dependant on the continued failure of immigration policy and the state is exploiting the situation because for them it has become a cash cow. === Federal Tax Burdens and Expenditures: Arizona is a Beneficiary State Arizona taxpayers receive more federal funding per dollar of federal taxes paid than the average state. Per dollar of Federal tax collected in 2005, Arizona citizens received approximately $1.19 in the way of federal spending. This ranks the state 21st highest among all states, the same ranking as in 1995 when Arizona received $1.13 per dollar of taxes in federal spending. http://www.taxfoundation.org/taxdata/show/22685.html === I don't have numbers for 2010, but following the money trail and observing the overall trend I seriously doubt the situation will be reversing anytime soon. --
From: PrecisionmachinisT on 10 Aug 2010 23:26 "pandora" <pandora(a)peak.org> wrote in message news:voOdnS0Fq4KnmP_RnZ2dnUVZ_uKdnZ2d(a)scnresearch.com... > On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 18:10:49 -0700, PrecisionmachinisT wrote: > > > "pandora" <pandora(a)peak.org> wrote in message > > news:daCdnVzOjfvsSfzRnZ2dnUVZ_gWdnZ2d(a)scnresearch.com... > >> On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 14:51:15 -0800, Uhh Clem wrote: > >> > >> > "Cliff" <Clhuprichguesswhat(a)aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message > >> > news:b0qv56lhutmr67j54tdij90pl28kad4g30(a)4ax.com... > >> > > >> > > >> >> Where are they going to deport the Indians to? > >> >> > >> >> > >> > Skin color isn't a factor--either produce the papers, or off to > >> > Mexico you go ..... > >> > > >> > -- > >> > >> How do you know who is from Mexico? > > > > You catch on quickly. > > Go tell that to Hachoo. Oh, I told him all right--it's just that the coward had set "follow up to" target to alt.autos.toyota only....and since I'm getting bored with him anyways.... --
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 11 Aug 2010 00:34
On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 21:03:41 -0500, pandora wrote: >>> You're now changing the original statement to something else. And yet, >>> how would anyone know who was from Canada? >> >> Um, 'cause you said so? > > I'm a stranger on the street. Nah, you're stranger than that. |