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From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 7 Feb 2010 14:07 On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 12:19:36 -0500, Mike Hunter wrote: > > Better do a bit more research if that is what you choose to believe. > Suppliers build to the manufacturers spec. At least Nippon Denso does.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 7 Feb 2010 17:00 On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 12:55:59 -0500, Mike Hunter wrote: > If you did, than I could not drift away, even if you did not properly > engage the shifter into the PARK position, as was the actual cause. YABUT! How could you even forget about the Ford recall for transmissions? They talked it to death almost as much as the currect Toyota recall. However, 'talked to death' is not a good phrase to use. Hundreds were killed and thousands injured thanks to Ford NOT fixing the transmissions, but issuing a sticker for the dash instead. You want to make such a big deal about the Toyota recall. So far, I don't think anyone has died yet from the sticking pedal, and Toyota is fixing the problem. Ford did nothing. > > > "Ed Maier" <evmaiertakethisout(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:hkmtuu$8ul$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> On 2/7/2010 11:17 AM, Mike Hunter wrote: >>> (Cross postings deleted, automatically) >>> >>> Old news! That is just another of the YABUT excuses used to change >>> the subject away from Toyota CURRENT 5.4 million world wide recall. >>> Why did you not just set the parking brake? LOL >>> >>> >>> >> I did. Reread my original post. >> >> Ed Maier >> >>
From: Ashton Crusher on 7 Feb 2010 17:36 On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 17:00:00 -0500, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote: >On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 12:55:59 -0500, Mike Hunter wrote: > >> If you did, than I could not drift away, even if you did not properly >> engage the shifter into the PARK position, as was the actual cause. > > >YABUT! > >How could you even forget about the Ford recall for transmissions? >They talked it to death almost as much as the currect Toyota recall. > >However, 'talked to death' is not a good phrase to use. Hundreds were >killed and thousands injured thanks to Ford NOT fixing the transmissions, >but issuing a sticker for the dash instead. > >You want to make such a big deal about the Toyota recall. So far, I don't >think anyone has died yet from the sticking pedal, and Toyota is fixing >the problem. 2500 accidents, 12 deaths, or something like that.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 7 Feb 2010 18:26 On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 15:36:56 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote: > On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 17:00:00 -0500, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote: > >>On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 12:55:59 -0500, Mike Hunter wrote: >> >>> If you did, than I could not drift away, even if you did not properly >>> engage the shifter into the PARK position, as was the actual cause. >> >> >>YABUT! >> >>How could you even forget about the Ford recall for transmissions? They >>talked it to death almost as much as the currect Toyota recall. >> >>However, 'talked to death' is not a good phrase to use. Hundreds were >>killed and thousands injured thanks to Ford NOT fixing the transmissions, >>but issuing a sticker for the dash instead. >> >>You want to make such a big deal about the Toyota recall. So far, I don't >>think anyone has died yet from the sticking pedal, and Toyota is fixing >>the problem. > > > 2500 accidents, 12 deaths, or something like that. Kinda pales compared with over 300 deaths and thousands of injuries for a transmission Ford didn't want to (and DIDN'T) fix...
From: SMS on 8 Feb 2010 07:26
Hachiroku ハチロク wrote: > On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 09:42:01 -0500, Mike Hunter wrote: > >> Ford was proven to not be at fault, dummy. > > TOYOTA has been proven to not be at fault! > It was CTS that made the accelerators in China. > > The recall does NOT apply to accelerators provided by DENSO. Whether it's the tires Ford used or the accelerator pedals Toyota used it's no excuse to blame the supplier. Ford used the larger P235 tires even though they were more prone to rollover in their tests than the P225 tires, and the P235 tires were the ones that were recalled. Ford also used lower tire pressure than Firestone recommended because they wanted more "grip" and the lower than normal pressure increased the heat on the tires which led to the tread separation. Ford was as much, or more, to blame as Firestone/Bridgestone. No doubt Toyota decided that the non-Denso part was going to be cheaper, and they used it instead of the part used in Japan. The difference is in how the companies responded to the recalls. Ford blamed Bridgestone. Toyota acknowledged that they were at fault. |