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From: dr_jeff on 16 Mar 2010 18:59 Obveeus wrote: > "dr_jeff" <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in message > news:8u2dnTj5QJj3mj3WnZ2dnUVZ_g-dnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >> Obveeus wrote: >>> "dr_jeff" <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in message > >> In the future, however, please don't change what I said. > > I didn't change anything you wrote. > >> You deleted a lot of my post without indicating that fact. I would >> appreciate it if you didn't do that. > > It is called 'editing out irrelevant content' and it is a shame that more > people don't make the effort to trim their posts. Call it what you want, but the poster changed what I said. I didn't say, don't edit, I said indicate that fact. jeff
From: AZ Nomad on 16 Mar 2010 19:01 On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:27:46 -0400, Nasty <nasty(a)tampabay.rr.com> wrote: >JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >> "Justbob30" <NoThank(a)you.com> wrote in message >> news:hno406$9el$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>> >>> "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in message >>> news:LFKnn.40001$_v6.22173(a)newsfe08.iad... >>>> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop(a)nastydesigns.com> wrote in message >>>> news:elmop-3343C8.07475616032010(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>>> In article <4LednSrST467RAPWnZ2dnUVZ_h6dnZ2d(a)giganews.com>, >>>>> dbu'' <nospam(a)nobama.com.invalid> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> When this "runaway" accelertor problem happens, can't the driver yank >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> gear shift to neutral, and/or turn the ignition off? >>>>>> The Prius is unlike any conventional car. I don't believe it's quite >>>>>> that simple. >>>>> see, you're representative of the public at large. You can't possibly >>>>> imagine that a Prius could behave like every other car in the >>>>> world--even though you've never owned or driven one. >>>>> >>>>> The driver can indeed yank the shifter into neutral and/or turn the car >>>>> off. Yanking into neutral is as easy as it is in a Buick--touch shift >>>>> lever, move to neutral. >>>>> >>>>> And you know what happens? Yeah. No drama. Drive system disengages, >>>>> gas engine stops running, car immediately starts slowing down. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> There is no conventional key, there might even be a delay >>>>>> in time for ignition off due to the electronics involved. >>>>> If you're using the power button, they've programmed it with a 3 second >>>>> delay. You'd know that if (a) you owned one, and (b) you bothered to >>>>> read the owner's manual of your shiny new $25,000 toy. Of course, >>>>> arrogant asses who claim they know everything about driving never bother >>>>> even to open or keep track of their owner's manual, let alone read it, >>>>> so they wouldn't know how their specific car operates. Even when they >>>>> get in and see that there's no key like in their '67 Buick, they never >>>>> bother to investigate how that power button works. >>>> >>>> So, when they arrive at their destination, they leave their Prius >>>> running? >>> Since the car doe NOT run when stopped (most of the time) yes it has been >>> known to happen...again maybe if you had ever driven one. >The gas motor may not be running when stopped if the battery is charged >but the car is still under battery power and if left on and in drive it >will walk away from you Do you have some insane notion that electric motors idle?
From: Tegger on 16 Mar 2010 19:21 Nasty <nasty(a)tampabay.rr.com> wrote in news:4b9fd8b3$0$4884 $9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com: > Tegger wrote: >> >> I've never driven a Prius. Under what exact conditions does the thing >> actually run under battery power alone? >> >> > > It has a system by which it monitors the battery charge level. It will > run on the battery only at idle and up to about 25 mph with 'normal' > acceleration. When the battery charge is reduced to a pre-set level the > gas engine starts up automatically to charge it, or if you do a jack > rabbit start from a stop it will start also. Or when you rip along at 90mph while rapidly alternating between gas pedal and brake pedal, which is what this Sikes fellow did. -- Tegger
From: Cameo on 16 Mar 2010 19:49 "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in message news:w_Rnn.84259$K81.75138(a)newsfe18.iad... > So, a "tuneup" means let someone under 60 drive it for an hour? :-) I resemble that remark!
From: Cameo on 16 Mar 2010 19:56
"Tegger" <invalid(a)invalid.inv> wrote in message news:Xns9D3DC4DEA22B6tegger(a)208.90.168.18... > > Or when you rip along at 90mph while rapidly alternating between gas > pedal > and brake pedal, which is what this Sikes fellow did. I wonder if that can be proven with enough confidence to sue the guy criminally. It would be no point to do that in civil court as he is a deadbeat. |