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From: dr_jeff on 16 Mar 2010 17:49 Nasty wrote: > JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >> "Justbob30" <NoThank(a)you.com> wrote in message >> news:hno406$9el$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>> >>> "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in message >>> news:LFKnn.40001$_v6.22173(a)newsfe08.iad... >>>> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop(a)nastydesigns.com> wrote in message >>>> news:elmop-3343C8.07475616032010(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>>> In article <4LednSrST467RAPWnZ2dnUVZ_h6dnZ2d(a)giganews.com>, >>>>> dbu'' <nospam(a)nobama.com.invalid> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> When this "runaway" accelertor problem happens, can't the driver >>>>>>> yank the >>>>>>> gear shift to neutral, and/or turn the ignition off? >>>>>> The Prius is unlike any conventional car. I don't believe it's quite >>>>>> that simple. >>>>> see, you're representative of the public at large. You can't possibly >>>>> imagine that a Prius could behave like every other car in the >>>>> world--even though you've never owned or driven one. >>>>> >>>>> The driver can indeed yank the shifter into neutral and/or turn the >>>>> car >>>>> off. Yanking into neutral is as easy as it is in a Buick--touch shift >>>>> lever, move to neutral. >>>>> >>>>> And you know what happens? Yeah. No drama. Drive system disengages, >>>>> gas engine stops running, car immediately starts slowing down. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> There is no conventional key, there might even be a delay >>>>>> in time for ignition off due to the electronics involved. >>>>> If you're using the power button, they've programmed it with a 3 >>>>> second >>>>> delay. You'd know that if (a) you owned one, and (b) you bothered to >>>>> read the owner's manual of your shiny new $25,000 toy. Of course, >>>>> arrogant asses who claim they know everything about driving never >>>>> bother >>>>> even to open or keep track of their owner's manual, let alone read it, >>>>> so they wouldn't know how their specific car operates. Even when they >>>>> get in and see that there's no key like in their '67 Buick, they never >>>>> bother to investigate how that power button works. >>>> >>>> So, when they arrive at their destination, they leave their Prius >>>> running? >>> Since the car doe NOT run when stopped (most of the time) yes it has >>> been known to happen...again maybe if you had ever driven one. > > The gas motor may not be running when stopped if the battery is charged > but the car is still under battery power and if left on and in drive it > will walk away from you Only if you give it legs.
From: dr_jeff on 16 Mar 2010 18:13 Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote: > In article <c8idnUh35_ZCSAPWnZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d(a)giganews.com>, > dr_jeff <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote: > >> He said he tried to put the car in neutral, but >> it didn't work. > > I call bullshit. That's what he said. That means there were two different failures (acccelerator failure and neutral switch failure) in a car not noted for either failure (he says the floor mat wasn't an issue). That's what he said. How accurate his claim is is a different issue. Jeff
From: Obveeus on 16 Mar 2010 18:24 "dr_jeff" <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in message news:FrGdnRsMJOfgnz3WnZ2dnUVZ_v2dnZ2d(a)giganews.com... > Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote: >> In article <c8idnUh35_ZCSAPWnZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d(a)giganews.com>, >> dr_jeff <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote: >> >>> He said he tried to put the car in neutral, but it didn't work. >> >> I call bullshit. > > That's what he said. I believe what he said was: A. he was too busy and didn't want to take his hands off the steering wheel to try and shift. B. he was scared to try and shift to neutral because he thought that it might flip the car. He made no claim about the shifter not working.
From: dr_jeff on 16 Mar 2010 18:34 Obveeus wrote: > "dr_jeff" <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in message > news:FrGdnRsMJOfgnz3WnZ2dnUVZ_v2dnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >> Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote: >>> In article <c8idnUh35_ZCSAPWnZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d(a)giganews.com>, >>> dr_jeff <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote: >>> >>>> He said he tried to put the car in neutral, but it didn't work. >>> I call bullshit. >> That's what he said. > > I believe what he said was: > A. he was too busy and didn't want to take his hands off the steering wheel > to try and shift. > B. he was scared to try and shift to neutral because he thought that it > might flip the car. > > He made no claim about the shifter not working. I misheard what he said. My bad. In the future, however, please don't change what I said. You deleted a lot of my post without indicating that fact. I would appreciate it if you didn't do that.
From: Obveeus on 16 Mar 2010 18:39
"dr_jeff" <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in message news:8u2dnTj5QJj3mj3WnZ2dnUVZ_g-dnZ2d(a)giganews.com... > Obveeus wrote: >> "dr_jeff" <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in message > In the future, however, please don't change what I said. I didn't change anything you wrote. > You deleted a lot of my post without indicating that fact. I would > appreciate it if you didn't do that. It is called 'editing out irrelevant content' and it is a shame that more people don't make the effort to trim their posts. |