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From: ACAR on 17 Mar 2010 07:19 On Mar 16, 10:36 am, Nasty <na...(a)tampabay.rr.com> wrote: snip > Then again, I live in Florida, seems like we > have a lot of runaway cars of all makes and models. Interestingly high > percentage of Cadillacs and Lincolns with VERY senior citizens. Remember > now, this is all just MHO. Actually, there's plenty of documentation re. driver age vs crashes. Lots of news articles are now quoting crash statistics as the spotlight moves from the cars to the drivers. So I guess we should thank the faker for shifting the debate.
From: Obveeus on 17 Mar 2010 11:49 "E. Meyer" <e.p.meyer(a)verizon.net> wrote: > "Obveeus" <Obveeus(a)aol.com> wrote: >> Charges for speeding and lying to police should be forthcoming. I'm not >> sure what the laws in California are with respect to how much over the >> posted speed limit a driver has to go before it becomes 'wreckless >> endangerment'. Still, the police probably just want to see this incident >> fade away from the front pages as quickly as possible given how they were >> duped. > > How were the police duped? He made a 911 call and they responded. What > happens after that is for the investigators to figure out, which they are > trying to do. They fueled the publicity for this guy's scam. They also took the attitude afterward (just as the New York case has taken) that Toyota is some sort of evil entity that needs to be kept away from these 'crime scenes'...as if Toyota is only working to cover things up. Toyota and the NHTSA, like it or not, are still more qualified to investigate this type of car issue than are local police. the police became part of the propaganda machine...most definitely duped by Sikes.
From: Cameo on 17 Mar 2010 13:51 "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in message news:DXUnn.12916$3D3.8872(a)newsfe19.iad... > Well, what happened with that guy who claimed his kid floated away in > a hot air balloon last year? Last headline I saw said something like > "Authorities say charges pending." That guy got convicted for misleading authorities.
From: Nasty on 17 Mar 2010 21:24 AZ Nomad wrote: > On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:27:46 -0400, Nasty <nasty(a)tampabay.rr.com> wrote: >> JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >>> "Justbob30" <NoThank(a)you.com> wrote in message >>> news:hno406$9el$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>> "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in message >>>> news:LFKnn.40001$_v6.22173(a)newsfe08.iad... >>>>> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop(a)nastydesigns.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:elmop-3343C8.07475616032010(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>>>> In article <4LednSrST467RAPWnZ2dnUVZ_h6dnZ2d(a)giganews.com>, >>>>>> dbu'' <nospam(a)nobama.com.invalid> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>> When this "runaway" accelertor problem happens, can't the driver yank >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> gear shift to neutral, and/or turn the ignition off? >>>>>>> The Prius is unlike any conventional car. I don't believe it's quite >>>>>>> that simple. >>>>>> see, you're representative of the public at large. You can't possibly >>>>>> imagine that a Prius could behave like every other car in the >>>>>> world--even though you've never owned or driven one. >>>>>> >>>>>> The driver can indeed yank the shifter into neutral and/or turn the car >>>>>> off. Yanking into neutral is as easy as it is in a Buick--touch shift >>>>>> lever, move to neutral. >>>>>> >>>>>> And you know what happens? Yeah. No drama. Drive system disengages, >>>>>> gas engine stops running, car immediately starts slowing down. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> There is no conventional key, there might even be a delay >>>>>>> in time for ignition off due to the electronics involved. >>>>>> If you're using the power button, they've programmed it with a 3 second >>>>>> delay. You'd know that if (a) you owned one, and (b) you bothered to >>>>>> read the owner's manual of your shiny new $25,000 toy. Of course, >>>>>> arrogant asses who claim they know everything about driving never bother >>>>>> even to open or keep track of their owner's manual, let alone read it, >>>>>> so they wouldn't know how their specific car operates. Even when they >>>>>> get in and see that there's no key like in their '67 Buick, they never >>>>>> bother to investigate how that power button works. >>>>> So, when they arrive at their destination, they leave their Prius >>>>> running? >>>> Since the car doe NOT run when stopped (most of the time) yes it has been >>>> known to happen...again maybe if you had ever driven one. > >> The gas motor may not be running when stopped if the battery is charged >> but the car is still under battery power and if left on and in drive it >> will walk away from you > > Do you have some insane notion that electric motors idle? Wow. There really is no limit to stupidity. Do you know ANYTHING about a Prius?
From: Nasty on 17 Mar 2010 21:28
Tegger wrote: > Nasty <nasty(a)tampabay.rr.com> wrote in news:4b9fd8b3$0$4884 > $9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com: > >> Tegger wrote: > >>> I've never driven a Prius. Under what exact conditions does the thing >>> actually run under battery power alone? >>> >>> >> It has a system by which it monitors the battery charge level. It will >> run on the battery only at idle and up to about 25 mph with 'normal' >> acceleration. When the battery charge is reduced to a pre-set level the >> gas engine starts up automatically to charge it, or if you do a jack >> rabbit start from a stop it will start also. > > > Or when you rip along at 90mph while rapidly alternating between gas pedal > and brake pedal, which is what this Sikes fellow did. > > > I think we need to add "get caught" between 'you' and 'rip[ing]' |