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From: Clive on 15 Feb 2010 11:44 In message <zLSdneVUS98y6OTWnZ2dnUVZ_uednZ2d(a)speakeasy.net>, jim beam <me(a)privacy.net> writes >> There is nothing wrong with the Prius...well except incompetent >> Customers don't understand how the brakes work and panic when they >> don't stop the car... >now that is deliberately deceitful bullshit. I've driven a Mk3 Prius, when you brake in an emergency fashion, The disc brakes are engaged, it's only under partial or light braking that you get the regen. then a swap to the discs to finally bring you to a stand. All that Toyota are doing is reprogramming it's software so the isn't a slight pause between both. -- Clive
From: C. E. White on 15 Feb 2010 12:25 "Clive" <Clive(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:g3bT6sLrnXeLFwxY(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk... > In message <zLSdneVUS98y6OTWnZ2dnUVZ_uednZ2d(a)speakeasy.net>, jim > beam <me(a)privacy.net> writes >>> There is nothing wrong with the Prius...well except incompetent >>> Customers don't understand how the brakes work and panic when they >>> don't stop the car... >>now that is deliberately deceitful bullshit. > I've driven a Mk3 Prius, when you brake in an emergency fashion, The > disc brakes are engaged, it's only under partial or light braking > that you get the regen. then a swap to the discs to finally bring > you to a stand. All that Toyota are doing is reprogramming it's > software so the isn't a slight pause between both. It is not the fact that Toyota has a minor problem with the Prius brakes, or sudden acceleration, or bad ball joints, or rusting frames, or leaky fuel systems that bothers me...it is that in every case, Toyota's first reaction is to deny there is a problem, the second reaction is to blame the Customer, the third reaction is to blame a supplier,, etc......at least in the past they never seemed to be willing to face up to facts - they designed the vehicles, they built the vehicles, and they sold the vehicles to what they keep claiming or incompetent Customers......When is Toyota going to honestly admit, they screwed up? So far all I've heard are a bunch insincere sounding apologies and promises to do better in the future. Ed
From: Clive on 15 Feb 2010 14:22 In message <hlc0l1$mpu$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, C. E. White <cewhite3(a)mindspring.com> writes >.When is Toyota going to honestly admit, >they screwed up? So far all I've heard are a bunch insincere sounding >apologies and promises to do better in the future. As I've already pointed out, I've already received a recall notice on my Auris, and our government hasn't mentioned anything about it. -- Clive
From: Mike Hunter on 15 Feb 2010 18:47 (Cross posting deleted, automatically) "jim beam" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message news:zLSdneVUS98y6OTWnZ2dnUVZ_uednZ2d(a)speakeasy.net... > On 02/15/2010 05:31 AM, C. E. White wrote: >> <clare(a)snyder.on.ca> wrote in message >> news:tnd9n55dkm1b6jmcdb6plld7rhen6s7v5d(a)4ax.com... >>> On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 23:32:06 -0500, me<noemail(a)nothere.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:57:26 +0000, Clive >>>> <Clive(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Toyota accelerator fixes have already begun here in the UK. What >>>>> would
From: Mike Hunter on 15 Feb 2010 18:48
(Cross posting deleted, automatically) "C. E. White" <cewhite3(a)mindspring.com> wrote in message news:hlbiue$lc4$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > > > Untill forced by NHTSA, Toyota seemed perfectly willing to blame the > Customers. Once forced to admit there was a problem they immedaitely tried > to find a scape goat (CTS, Customers, floor mat suppliers, etc.). Oh What > a Feeling. > > Ed > |