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From: clare on 3 Feb 2010 15:24 On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 21:38:19 -0500, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote: >On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 17:29:46 -0500, C. E. White wrote: > >> >> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >> news:pan.2010.02.02.04.53.36.737555(a)e86.GTS... >> >>> I've crawled throuh many cars, and some of the best built are Toyotas. >> >> And some aren't. >> >> Ed > > >Right. Generally GM. Nissan, too. Not very well put together. > >Fords are OK, and I actually like the way Chryslers are built. > >GMs are the worst. > My experience too. But you can add Mitsubishi in with Nissan and GM. Mazda is closer to Ford the last few years, pulling ahead of Nissan and GM. Honda is somewhere in around Chrysler/Toyota
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 3 Feb 2010 20:16 On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 22:34:26 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote: > On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 23:53:38 -0500, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote: > >>On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 21:05:24 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote: >> >>>>"No matter what Toyota does, they always do it right," Darvish said. >>>>"They might be a little slow in coming out, but that's because they're >>>>diligent." >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> If they "always do it right" they would not have this problem. Nor >>> would they have locks that burn up and trap the people inside and burn >>> them up too. Or sludged up engines. Or bad head gaskets. >> >>How many had bad head gaskets? Besides the 7M series? >> >>And that was because the US required the use of non-asbestos head >>gaskets. >> >>I've crawled throuh many cars, and some of the best built are Toyotas. >> >>so there. >> >> >> > It's funny to see the Toyota folks get their panties in a bunch when it's > revealed that the emperor has no clothes. The emperor is dressed fairly well. There's a reason I buy "J" VIN Toyota products, and that's because I've seen some of the 'quality' from NUMMI and the US plants. I have had few problems with my Japanese made Toyotas. I haven't had any problems with my US made ones, because I only buy Japanese made ones.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 3 Feb 2010 20:27 On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 15:24:22 -0500, clare wrote: > On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 21:38:19 -0500, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote: > >>On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 17:29:46 -0500, C. E. White wrote: >> >> >>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>> news:pan.2010.02.02.04.53.36.737555(a)e86.GTS... >>> >>>> I've crawled throuh many cars, and some of the best built are Toyotas. >>> >>> And some aren't. >>> >>> Ed >> >> >>Right. Generally GM. Nissan, too. Not very well put together. >> >>Fords are OK, and I actually like the way Chryslers are built. >> >>GMs are the worst. >> > My experience too. But you can add Mitsubishi in with Nissan and GM. Mazda > is closer to Ford the last few years, pulling ahead of Nissan and GM. > Honda is somewhere in around Chrysler/Toyota I have '89 Mazda 626 '05 Scion tC '89 Soob GL coupe '88 Supra '97 Soob Legacy wagon '92 Dodge Grand Caravan '85 Corolla GTS The Supra and the GTS are really well screwed together. The Mazda and the '89 Soob are fairly well made and easy to work on. Never did a timing belt before, and replacing the TWO on the Soob was child's play. The Scion is about like any modern car, light materials and quick assembly. The Caravan is made like all Caravans, pretty well. Also in my stable were a '90 240SX. UGH! Held together with SHEET METAL SCREWS!!!! I thought since the car had been through the mill it was a slap together job by the seller, but when I went to get parts out of another one, SHEET METAL SCREWS!!! Chevys? UGH! We're not talking you Father's Chevrolet here. Fords are OK, better made than Chevy's My '94 LHS was a fairly bullet-proof car, but repairs were NOT easy. GMs are made to please the shareholders, not the customers. That said, we had a Buick on the lot Park Avanue) that was a very nice running car. I was going to buy it but someone gave me the LHS, and I bought a Tercel instead. Even the lowly Tercel was a very well made car. We also had an 85 Cutlass on the lot. The guy who owned it wanted his wife an kid in a newer car. It was also a very well running vehicle with 225,000 miles on it, but it had also had a new starter, alternator, AC compressor, etc installed within the prior year. But it was a decent car. I sold it to some people looking for a good, reliable car, and saw the darn thing running 3 years later. Must have been made on a Wednesday...
From: Mike Hunter on 4 Feb 2010 09:45 (Cross posting removed, automatically) <clare(a)snyder.on.ca> wrote in message news:gmmjm5dvq4h0uv026p7dp49eofj85fb17m(a)4ax.com... > On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 21:38:19 -0500, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> > wrote: > >>On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 17:29:46 -0500, C. E. White wrote: >> >>> >>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>> news:pan.2010.02.02.04.53.36.737555(a)e86.GTS... >>> >>>> I've crawled throuh many cars, and some of the best built are Toyotas. >>> >>> And some aren't. >>> >>> Ed >> >> >>Right. Generally GM. Nissan, too. Not very well put together. >> >>Fords are OK, and I actually like the way Chryslers are built. >> >>GMs are the worst. >> > My experience too. But you can add Mitsubishi in with Nissan and GM. > Mazda is closer to Ford the last few years, pulling ahead of Nissan > and GM. Honda is somewhere in around Chrysler/Toyota
From: Mike Hunter on 4 Feb 2010 09:46
(Cross posting removed, automatically) "dsi1" <dsi1(a)humuhumunukunukuapuapa.org> wrote in message news:qRman.34277$Fm7.24527(a)newsfe16.iad... > On 2/3/2010 2:19 AM, IYM wrote: >> >> Just saw the new story about Toyota's beloved Prius having problems with >> the brakes....Looks like it is limited to Japan right now, but may >> expand....Never rains, but it pours....Toyota looks like it's getting a >> bloody nose right now.... > > My neighbor had to have the power steering pump replace on her 2 year old > Camry Hybrid. That's the breaks. Nobody has much experience with > electrically powered PS pumps or computer controlled engine throttling. > This is new technology that soon could be standard on all cars. Glitches > like this are to expected and should we expect rare transient events to be > easy to diagnose. Whether you are a Toyota fan or not, the truth is that > Toyota is paying the price for being a consumer technology leader. > > Personally, I don't buy that sticking brake pedal business. :-) |