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From: Mike Hunter on 11 Feb 2010 15:17 (Cross posting deleted, automatically) "Clive" <Clive(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:1BC2naGGvycLFwwi(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk... > In message <ea66n5l7ao35vmcthtvv65funobo6judif(a)4ax.com>, me > <noemail(a)nothere.com> writes >>On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:32:06 +0000, Clive <Clive(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk> >>wrote: >> >>>They also pole their readership >>>every two years on each car's previous reliability and publish the >>>results. It's a totally different product from the JD Power Survey which >>>we also get over here, who, to be honest I wouldn't trust, any more than >>>I would any other magazine that runs adverts. >> >>Readers polls (also the favorite of Consumer Reports over here) are >>not much better than JD Powers. You need a statistically valid survey >>to guage reliability.
From: Mike Hunter on 11 Feb 2010 15:19 (Cross posting deleted, automatically) "Clive" <Clive(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:hcPjwFBzM+cLFwT$@yewbank.demon.co.uk... > In message <pes6n591t0kjjohmnd4bo6vcr3qnq354pt(a)4ax.com>, > clare(a)snyder.on.ca writes >>At the time of the recall there were LESS THAN 12 CONFIRMED incidents >>of throttles sticking in Canada, and NO ACCIDENTS. > Almost the same in Europe where there have been four reports of accidents > and no injuries. As Europe has over 500 million people and USA only 300 > million, the problem would seem to be America being a far more litigate > minded society, jumping on the bandwagon of getting something for nothing. > -- > Clive >
From: Mike Hunter on 11 Feb 2010 15:21 I saw one report on TV about a lady that hit the back of another car right after she left the Toyota dealership with her "FIXED" Corolla ;) "me" <noemail(a)nothere.com> wrote in message news:k027n5hhtckhovlobqmo2mv1rv4ido2qhe(a)4ax.com... > On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:57:26 +0000, Clive <Clive(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk> > wrote: > >>Toyota accelerator fixes have already begun here in the UK. What would >>it take for the Merkin "big3" to get of their arses so quick, and our >>government hasn't even mentioned anything about Toyota. > > Interesting, since they don't appear to have confirmed diagnosis yet, > let alone a fix.
From: Mike Hunter on 11 Feb 2010 15:22 (Cross posting deleted, automatically) "Clive" <Clive(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:ycxnQuALF+cLFwwt(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk... > In message <k027n5hhtckhovlobqmo2mv1rv4ido2qhe(a)4ax.com>, me > <noemail(a)nothere.com> writes >>On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:57:26 +0000, Clive <Clive(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk> >>wrote: >>>Toyota accelerator fixes have already begun here in the UK.
From: Derek Gee on 11 Feb 2010 19:22
<clare(a)snyder.on.ca> wrote in message news:pes6n591t0kjjohmnd4bo6vcr3qnq354pt(a)4ax.com... > No - but I DO know, from talking to they guys still there, that NO > vehicle that had it's oil changed every 5000KM or 4 months ever came > into that dealership with a sludge problem. Not a single one. > > Same at the local Chrysler dealerships. Doubtful. The news articles about the guys who filed the class action specifically mentioned they had PROOF in the form of receipts for oil changes from the Toyota dealers for the required service intervals. Unless the dealers were selling them sub-standard oil, the evidence clearly pointed to a bad engineering change. Toyota backed down and extended the warranty, which speaks volumes to me that the problem was very real and they knew it. Derek |