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From: clare on 11 Feb 2010 21:03 On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 23:32:06 -0500, me <noemail(a)nothere.com> wrote: >On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:57:26 +0000, Clive <Clive(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk> >wrote: > >>Toyota accelerator fixes have already begun here in the UK. What would >>it take for the Merkin "big3" to get of their arses so quick, and our >>government hasn't even mentioned anything about Toyota. > >Interesting, since they don't appear to have confirmed diagnosis yet, >let alone a fix. They have confirmed both.
From: clare on 11 Feb 2010 21:04 On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:00:03 +0000, Clive <Clive(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk> wrote: >In message <pes6n591t0kjjohmnd4bo6vcr3qnq354pt(a)4ax.com>, >clare(a)snyder.on.ca writes >>At the time of the recall there were LESS THAN 12 CONFIRMED incidents >>of throttles sticking in Canada, and NO ACCIDENTS. >Almost the same in Europe where there have been four reports of >accidents and no injuries. As Europe has over 500 million people and >USA only 300 million, the problem would seem to be America being a far >more litigate minded society, jumping on the bandwagon of getting >something for nothing. You got THAT right.
From: clare on 11 Feb 2010 21:10 On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:22:05 -0500, "Derek Gee" <dgeeSPAMSUCKS(a)twmi.INVALID.rr.com> wrote: ><clare(a)snyder.on.ca> wrote in message >news:pes6n591t0kjjohmnd4bo6vcr3qnq354pt(a)4ax.com... >> No - but I DO know, from talking to they guys still there, that NO >> vehicle that had it's oil changed every 5000KM or 4 months ever came >> into that dealership with a sludge problem. Not a single one. >> >> Same at the local Chrysler dealerships. > >Doubtful. The news articles about the guys who filed the class action >specifically mentioned they had PROOF in the form of receipts for oil >changes from the Toyota dealers for the required service intervals. Unless >the dealers were selling them sub-standard oil, the evidence clearly pointed >to a bad engineering change. Toyota backed down and extended the warranty, >which speaks volumes to me that the problem was very real and they knew it. > >Derek > It is not doubtfull at all - and what you said does not contradict what I said. Read it again. And again - I said with oil changed ever 5000KM - that is 3000 MILES, or every 3 months. (sorry - I said 4 months - I meant 4 changes per year - every 3 months) The A schedule required maintenance allows significantly longer drain intervals - and it is these longer drain intervals that caused the problem in both Toyota and Chrysler - as well as Honda.. The vast majority of the cars that had the problem TECHNICALLY should have been following the "extreme conditions" schedule. Toyota extended the warranty because they allowed the longer drain intervals and didn't design the engine to be able to accept those longer drain intervals under adverse conditions.
From: Mike Hunter on 12 Feb 2010 10:47 (Cross postings deleted, automatically) That may be his opinion but the fact is Toyota issued the extended warranty, for what it called their gelling problem, after warranty claims were submitted from dealerships that were performing proper maintenance of their customers cars, that were showing signs of gelling. "Derek Gee" <dgeeSPAMSUCKS(a)twmi.INVALID.rr.com> wrote in message news:4b749f33$0$4882$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > <clare(a)snyder.on.ca> wrote in message > news:pes6n591t0kjjohmnd4bo6vcr3qnq354pt(a)4ax.com... >> No - but I DO know, from talking to they guys still there, that NO >> vehicle that had it's oil changed every 5000KM or 4 months ever came >> into that dealership with a sludge problem. Not a single one. >> >> Same at the local Chrysler dealerships. > > Doubtful. The news articles about the guys who filed the class action > specifically mentioned they had PROOF in the form of receipts for oil > changes from the Toyota dealers for the required service intervals. > Unless the dealers were selling them sub-standard oil, the evidence > clearly pointed to a bad engineering change. Toyota backed down and > extended the warranty, which speaks volumes to me that the problem was > very real and they knew it. > > Derek >
From: Mike Hunter on 12 Feb 2010 10:48
(Cross postings deleted, automatically) <clare(a)snyder.on.ca> wrote in message news:tnd9n55dkm1b6jmcdb6plld7rhen6s7v5d(a)4ax.com... > On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 23:32:06 -0500, me <noemail(a)nothere.com> wrote: > >>On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:57:26 +0000, Clive <Clive(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk> >>wrote: >> >>>Toyota accelerator fixes have already begun here in the UK. |