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From: Mike Hunter on 31 Jan 2010 19:09 Once again our friend Canuck57 is telling us the sky is falling LOL "Canuck57" <Canuck57(a)nospam.com> wrote in message news:qJl9n.72167$uH1.1789(a)newsfe25.iad... > On 31/01/2010 9:48 AM, Hachiroku ???? wrote: >> On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 23:30:15 +0000, Michael Golden wrote: >> >>> Canuck57 wrote: >>> >>>> Maybe Obama should give GM to Toyota for $1 to get them out of the >>>> taxpayers wallet. >>> >>> Actually, that sounds like a good idea. >> >> >> But then, he'd want to get every dime that was invested i GM back, and >> would probably place a fee on all car dealers to get it back. > > Nope, just GM and Chrysler ones. Squeeze the bastards so tight until it > is paid off or they quit.
From: Mike Hunter on 31 Jan 2010 19:09 Once again our friend Canuck57 is telling us the sky is falling LOL "Canuck57" <Canuck57(a)nospam.com> wrote in message news:_Jl9n.72300$uH1.52844(a)newsfe25.iad... > Double nothing is still nothing. > > On 31/01/2010 10:25 AM, Mike Hunter wrote: >> Once again our friend Canuck57 is telling us the sky is falling LOL >> >> >> "Canuck57"<Canuck57(a)nospam.com> wrote in message >> news:e789n.9371$4p5.7700(a)newsfe22.iad... >>> On 30/01/2010 9:16 PM, Hachiroku wrote: >>>> On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 20:21:56 -0700, Canuck57 wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 30/01/2010 1:49 PM, Hachiroku ???? wrote: >>>>>> On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 19:25:18 -0500, Tom wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> "Canuck57"<Canuck57(a)nospam.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:eH%8n.68114$PI7.41298(a)newsfe17.iad... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Funny, Toyota is helping out GM Vibe customers. LMAO. >>>>>>>> Why not toyota designed them and built them for GM. no wonder gm >>>>>>>> dumped >>>>>>>> them I am LMAOl >>>>>> >>>>>> Who dumped WHO?! >>>>>> >>>>>> I think you have that backwards. >>>>>> Before I say what I'm going to say, bear in mind GM has had about 15 >>>>>> times >>>>>> the number of recalls as Toyota. >>>>>> >>>>>> Toyota ended the relationship with GM. >>>>>> I think it's because GM just didn't care. >>>>>> >>>>>> NOW LYAO. >>>>> >>>>> Looks like GM walked away from pontiac owners.... >>>>> >>>>> http://jalopnik.com/5303761/gm-says-goodbye-to-toyota-partnership-ships-nummi-to-old-gm >>>>> >>>>> http://www.motorauthority.com/blog/1033610_gm-ends-25-year-nummi-partnership-with-toyota >>>>> >>>>> GM walked away. >>>> >>>> >>>> Yeah, I know that. Toyota was trying to help them build a higher >>>> quality >>>> car. Gm figured it didn't serve the shareholders to make cars a little >>>> better. "We're losing money on every car we sell, but we'll make it up >>>> on >>>> volume." >>> >>> GM probably couldn't make enough for management bonuses, super fat >>> pensions, Wagoner's take and the political contributions. Plus Toyota >>> probably made GM pay it's bills or no cars. >> >> >
From: Mike Hunter on 31 Jan 2010 19:13 If GM made less on the Vibe, it was because GM sold it at an average of $2,500 less than a Matrix with the same equipment "dr_jeff" <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in message news:NMydnQ6BT8yNjfvWnZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d(a)giganews.com...
From: dr_jeff on 31 Jan 2010 19:22 Mike Hunter wrote: > Get real! Toyota pulled our after GM gave up because they did not want to > pay union wages or use 70% of parts made in the US as was a requirement in Get Real yourself. There never was a requirement that 70% of the parts be made in the US. (If I am wrong, prove it.) It's true that Toyota didn't want to pay UAW wages. Another problem is that only 11% of the parts where made within 400 mi of the plant. So the rest had to be shipped in from far away. Jeff > "hls" <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote in message > news:ltednfuRl5yVnPvWnZ2dnUVZ_vadnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >> news:pan.2010.01.31.20.26.00.980275(a)e86.GTS... >> >>> Toyota pulled out of NUMMI after GM suggested something, I can't recall >>> now, but it was something similar to Democrats trying the same thing over >>> and over and expecting a different result, and Toyota said, "ENOUGH!!!" >>> >> It was discussed on the group some time ago. >> IIRC, GM pulled out related to the cost cutting times around the >> bankruptcy. >> The plant had always been a disaster, too expensive. >> Toyota had no reason to continue to use this plant with Pontiac gone and >> no Vibe to make. The high cost of California did this one it. > >
From: Mike Hunter on 31 Jan 2010 19:50
What part of, 70% of parts made in the US as was a requirement in the UAW contract, did you not understand? You are partly correct, the remaining 30% were shipped in from far away, as in imported, like most of the parts in the other Toyotas assembled in the US. "dr_jeff" <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in message news:0eednSfKfvUjg_vWnZ2dnUVZ_sNi4p2d(a)giganews.com... > Mike Hunter wrote: >> Get real! Toyota pulled our after GM gave up because they did not want >> to pay union wages or use 70% of parts made in the US as was a >> requirement in the UAW contract > > Get Real yourself. There never was a requirement that 70% of the parts be > made in the US. (If I am wrong, prove it.) It's true that Toyota didn't > want to pay UAW wages. Another problem is that only 11% of the parts where > made within 400 mi of the plant. So the rest had to be shipped in from far > away. > > Jeff > >> "hls" <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote in message >> news:ltednfuRl5yVnPvWnZ2dnUVZ_vadnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>> news:pan.2010.01.31.20.26.00.980275(a)e86.GTS... >>> >>>> Toyota pulled out of NUMMI after GM suggested something, I can't recall >>>> now, but it was something similar to Democrats trying the same thing >>>> over >>>> and over and expecting a different result, and Toyota said, "ENOUGH!!!" >>>> >>> It was discussed on the group some time ago. >>> IIRC, GM pulled out related to the cost cutting times around the >>> bankruptcy. >>> The plant had always been a disaster, too expensive. >>> Toyota had no reason to continue to use this plant with Pontiac gone and >>> no Vibe to make. The high cost of California did this one it. >> |