From: Tom on


"Hachiroku ハチロク" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
news:pan.2010.01.30.20.49.03.387692(a)e86.GTS...
> On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 19:25:18 -0500, Tom wrote:
>
>> "Canuck57" <Canuck57(a)nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:eH%8n.68114$PI7.41298(a)newsfe17.iad...
>>>
>>>
>>> Funny, Toyota is helping out GM Vibe customers. LMAO.
>>>Why not toyota designed them and built them for GM. no wonder gm dumped
>>>them I am LMAOl
>
> Who dumped WHO?!
>
> I think you have that backwards.
> Before I say what I'm going to say, bear in mind GM has had about 15 times
> the number of recalls as Toyota.
>
> Toyota ended the relationship with GM.
> I think it's because GM just didn't care.
>
> NOW LYAO.
>
> Wrong GM ended the relationship with the bankruptcy and was also winding
> down their participation , only purchasing a few vibes a year from the
> partnership.
>
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 23:30:15 +0000, Michael Golden wrote:

> Canuck57 wrote:
>
>> Maybe Obama should give GM to Toyota for $1 to get them out of the
>> taxpayers wallet.
>
> Actually, that sounds like a good idea.


But then, he'd want to get every dime that was invested i GM back, and
would probably place a fee on all car dealers to get it back.


From: Mike Hunter on
Where did you get the idea that GM losing money on every car we sell? You
do not seem to know much about the cost of doing business. Perhaps you are
confusing build costs with the cost to doing business. The fact is GM
makes money on every vehicle it sells. The COST has been spending billions
to restructure and to revamp and develop the latest in electric vehicle
technology. That is why they are currently not showing a profit


"Hachiroku" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 20:21:56 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:
>
>> On 30/01/2010 1:49 PM, Hachiroku ???? wrote:
>>> On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 19:25:18 -0500, Tom wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Canuck57"<Canuck57(a)nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:eH%8n.68114$PI7.41298(a)newsfe17.iad...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Funny, Toyota is helping out GM Vibe customers. LMAO.
>>>>> Why not toyota designed them and built them for GM. no wonder gm
>>>>> dumped
>>>>> them I am LMAOl
>>>
>>> Who dumped WHO?!
>>>
>>> I think you have that backwards.
>>> Before I say what I'm going to say, bear in mind GM has had about 15
>>> times
>>> the number of recalls as Toyota.
>>>
>>> Toyota ended the relationship with GM.
>>> I think it's because GM just didn't care.
>>>
>>> NOW LYAO.
>>
>> Looks like GM walked away from pontiac owners....
>>
>> http://jalopnik.com/5303761/gm-says-goodbye-to-toyota-partnership-ships-nummi-to-old-gm
>>
>> http://www.motorauthority.com/blog/1033610_gm-ends-25-year-nummi-partnership-with-toyota
>>
>> GM walked away.
>
>
> Yeah, I know that. Toyota was trying to help them build a higher quality
> car. Gm figured it didn't serve the shareholders to make cars a little
> better. "We're losing money on every car we sell, but we'll make it up on
> volume."
>
>


From: Mike Hunter on
Once again our friend Canuck57 is telling us the sky is falling LOL


"Canuck57" <Canuck57(a)nospam.com> wrote in message
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> On 30/01/2010 9:16 PM, Hachiroku wrote:
>> On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 20:21:56 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:
>>
>>> On 30/01/2010 1:49 PM, Hachiroku ???? wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 19:25:18 -0500, Tom wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Canuck57"<Canuck57(a)nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:eH%8n.68114$PI7.41298(a)newsfe17.iad...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Funny, Toyota is helping out GM Vibe customers. LMAO.
>>>>>> Why not toyota designed them and built them for GM. no wonder gm
>>>>>> dumped
>>>>>> them I am LMAOl
>>>>
>>>> Who dumped WHO?!
>>>>
>>>> I think you have that backwards.
>>>> Before I say what I'm going to say, bear in mind GM has had about 15
>>>> times
>>>> the number of recalls as Toyota.
>>>>
>>>> Toyota ended the relationship with GM.
>>>> I think it's because GM just didn't care.
>>>>
>>>> NOW LYAO.
>>>
>>> Looks like GM walked away from pontiac owners....
>>>
>>> http://jalopnik.com/5303761/gm-says-goodbye-to-toyota-partnership-ships-nummi-to-old-gm
>>>
>>> http://www.motorauthority.com/blog/1033610_gm-ends-25-year-nummi-partnership-with-toyota
>>>
>>> GM walked away.
>>
>>
>> Yeah, I know that. Toyota was trying to help them build a higher quality
>> car. Gm figured it didn't serve the shareholders to make cars a little
>> better. "We're losing money on every car we sell, but we'll make it up on
>> volume."
>
> GM probably couldn't make enough for management bonuses, super fat
> pensions, Wagoner's take and the political contributions. Plus Toyota
> probably made GM pay it's bills or no cars.


From: Mike Hunter on
Once again our friend Canuck57 is telling us the sky is falling LOL


"Canuck57" <Canuck57(a)nospam.com> wrote in message
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> On 30/01/2010 9:16 PM, Hachiroku wrote:
>> On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 20:21:56 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:
>>
>>> On 30/01/2010 1:49 PM, Hachiroku ???? wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 19:25:18 -0500, Tom wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Canuck57"<Canuck57(a)nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:eH%8n.68114$PI7.41298(a)newsfe17.iad...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Funny, Toyota is helping out GM Vibe customers. LMAO.
>>>>>> Why not toyota designed them and built them for GM. no wonder gm
>>>>>> dumped
>>>>>> them I am LMAOl
>>>>
>>>> Who dumped WHO?!
>>>>
>>>> I think you have that backwards.
>>>> Before I say what I'm going to say, bear in mind GM has had about 15
>>>> times
>>>> the number of recalls as Toyota.
>>>>
>>>> Toyota ended the relationship with GM.
>>>> I think it's because GM just didn't care.
>>>>
>>>> NOW LYAO.
>>>
>>> Looks like GM walked away from pontiac owners....
>>>
>>> http://jalopnik.com/5303761/gm-says-goodbye-to-toyota-partnership-ships-nummi-to-old-gm
>>>
>>> http://www.motorauthority.com/blog/1033610_gm-ends-25-year-nummi-partnership-with-toyota
>>>
>>> GM walked away.
>>
>>
>> Yeah, I know that. Toyota was trying to help them build a higher quality
>> car. Gm figured it didn't serve the shareholders to make cars a little
>> better. "We're losing money on every car we sell, but we'll make it up on
>> volume."
>
> GM probably couldn't make enough for management bonuses, super fat
> pensions, Wagoner's take and the political contributions. Plus Toyota
> probably made GM pay it's bills or no cars.