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From: Canuck57 on 31 Jan 2010 15:28 Double nothing is still nothing. On 31/01/2010 10:25 AM, Mike Hunter wrote: > Once again our friend Canuck57 is telling us the sky is falling LOL > > > "Canuck57"<Canuck57(a)nospam.com> wrote in message > news:e789n.9371$4p5.7700(a)newsfe22.iad... >> On 30/01/2010 9:16 PM, Hachiroku wrote: >>> On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 20:21:56 -0700, Canuck57 wrote: >>> >>>> On 30/01/2010 1:49 PM, Hachiroku ???? wrote: >>>>> On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 19:25:18 -0500, Tom wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> "Canuck57"<Canuck57(a)nospam.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:eH%8n.68114$PI7.41298(a)newsfe17.iad... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Funny, Toyota is helping out GM Vibe customers. LMAO. >>>>>>> Why not toyota designed them and built them for GM. no wonder gm >>>>>>> dumped >>>>>>> them I am LMAOl >>>>> >>>>> Who dumped WHO?! >>>>> >>>>> I think you have that backwards. >>>>> Before I say what I'm going to say, bear in mind GM has had about 15 >>>>> times >>>>> the number of recalls as Toyota. >>>>> >>>>> Toyota ended the relationship with GM. >>>>> I think it's because GM just didn't care. >>>>> >>>>> NOW LYAO. >>>> >>>> Looks like GM walked away from pontiac owners.... >>>> >>>> http://jalopnik.com/5303761/gm-says-goodbye-to-toyota-partnership-ships-nummi-to-old-gm >>>> >>>> http://www.motorauthority.com/blog/1033610_gm-ends-25-year-nummi-partnership-with-toyota >>>> >>>> GM walked away. >>> >>> >>> Yeah, I know that. Toyota was trying to help them build a higher quality >>> car. Gm figured it didn't serve the shareholders to make cars a little >>> better. "We're losing money on every car we sell, but we'll make it up on >>> volume." >> >> GM probably couldn't make enough for management bonuses, super fat >> pensions, Wagoner's take and the political contributions. Plus Toyota >> probably made GM pay it's bills or no cars. > >
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 31 Jan 2010 15:37 On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 13:28:05 -0700, Canuck57 wrote: > On 31/01/2010 9:48 AM, Hachiroku ハチロク wrote: >> On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 23:30:15 +0000, Michael Golden wrote: >> >>> Canuck57 wrote: >>> >>>> Maybe Obama should give GM to Toyota for $1 to get them out of the >>>> taxpayers wallet. >>> >>> Actually, that sounds like a good idea. >> >> >> But then, he'd want to get every dime that was invested i GM back, and >> would probably place a fee on all car dealers to get it back. > > Nope, just GM and Chrysler ones. Squeeze the bastards so tight until it > is paid off or they quit. Haven't been paying attention, have we? ;) He wants to get "every dime back from the money we loaned the banks", so he is levying fees...on ALL banks! (or he wants to, anyway). Guess who will be paying those fees? (HINT: It ain't the banks!) I think he has a calendar on his desk, like the saying of the day or the cartoon of the day, but his is the "New Tax of the Day".
From: Canuck57 on 31 Jan 2010 15:43 On 31/01/2010 1:08 PM, hls wrote: > > <clare(a)snyder.on.ca> wrote in message >>> >> Actually, nobody dumped anybody. GM cancelled Pontiac. The Vibe was a >> Pontiac. With the end of Pontiac there was no longer a Pontiac Vibe to >> be built. The car was not sold under any other GM brand. > > That is almost right. It was made by the NUMMI facility, which GM dumped > and Toyota decided not to continue. The Vibe was a sister of the Toyota > Voltz that was a Japanese failure. You have to look at it from Toyota's perspective. UAW plant in expensive California.... Just the overhead in dealing with California government greed and complexity would need a small army of accountants, legal, HR and others to keep it going. Why not just close it? Excess capacity and make them elsewhere. Good cost cutting move. Stupid place to put a auto manufacturing plant in anyway. Probably was subsidized by California government at one time before they went broke.
From: hls on 31 Jan 2010 17:15 "Hachiroku ハチロク" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message news:pan.2010.01.31.20.26.00.980275(a)e86.GTS... > > Toyota pulled out of NUMMI after GM suggested something, I can't recall > now, but it was something similar to Democrats trying the same thing over > and over and expecting a different result, and Toyota said, "ENOUGH!!!" > It was discussed on the group some time ago. IIRC, GM pulled out related to the cost cutting times around the bankruptcy. The plant had always been a disaster, too expensive. Toyota had no reason to continue to use this plant with Pontiac gone and no Vibe to make. The high cost of California did this one it.
From: Canuck57 on 31 Jan 2010 18:18
On 31/01/2010 3:39 PM, Conscience wrote: > On 2010-01-31 14:15:35 -0800, "hls" <hls(a)nospam.nix> said: > >> The high cost of California did this one it. > > The sooner socialist politicians realize that crippling taxes cost jobs, > the better we'll be for it. Not likely to happen, but I agree with your statement otherwise. Bernie Madoff, $50 billion into a black hole and goes to jail, Obama drops $2 trillion, of which $100 Billion or so into GMs black hole. Even more for "select" banks because the select rich deal there. Pretty hard to explain to Warren Buffet, Bill Gates and others the FDIC limits. Ever wonder why one bank gets assistance and another does not? Bet the government would not want people to see the client lists and cash in accounts for a little scruteny. And Congress is looking at Bernie like a top criminal. While Wagner gets a $20 million pension from Gm-Caryle. Just depends on who you are ripping off. Go figure. Have to feed the biggest corruption engine in the USA, Washington DC. Times are tough, some will not be paying for the senators and congress people this upcoming election. I wonder who will drop out. |