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From: C. E. White on 4 Feb 2010 08:15 "hls" <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote in message news:8vOdnSjRIKumfvjWnZ2dnUVZ_v2dnZ2d(a)giganews.com... > > <clare(a)snyder.on.ca> wrote in message >>> >> Actually, nobody dumped anybody. GM cancelled Pontiac. The Vibe was >> a >> Pontiac. With the end of Pontiac there was no longer a Pontiac Vibe >> to >> be built. The car was not sold under any other GM brand. > > That is almost right. It was made by the NUMMI facility, which GM > dumped > and Toyota decided not to continue. The Vibe was a sister of the > Toyota > Voltz that was a Japanese failure. The Vibe is basically a glitzed up Toyota Matrix. Now maybe that is a Voltz in Japan, but in any case, it is just a jacked up Corolla wagon. Ed
From: Clive on 4 Feb 2010 19:49 In message <4b646f82$0$6584$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net>, Mike Hunter <Mikehunt2(a)lycos.?.invalid> writes >Guess where Toyota is going to actually use the parts that their customer >NEED? They will be used first for unsold new cars on the dealerships >lots, then on the Toyotas in their assembly plants storage lots. According to the UK Toyota site all cars registered since January are fit to drive. -- Clive
From: clare on 4 Feb 2010 23:17 On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 00:49:51 +0000, Clive <Clive(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk> wrote: >In message <4b646f82$0$6584$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net>, Mike Hunter ><Mikehunt2(a)lycos.?.invalid> writes >>Guess where Toyota is going to actually use the parts that their customer >>NEED? They will be used first for unsold new cars on the dealerships >>lots, then on the Toyotas in their assembly plants storage lots. >According to the UK Toyota site all cars registered since January are >fit to drive. In Canada at least, you a WRONG. Customers cars are first. Those with any sign of stiffness get priority. Then come sold cars on dealers lots, then dealer inventory. New cars are unlikely to have a problem as it is a "combination of wear and humidity" that is causing the problem. This whole thing is being blown WAY out of proportion. And the "braking" problem on the Hybrids??? Do you realize FORD has had to reflash the code on some of their hybrids for the same problem?? Switching from regen to friction brakes is NOT seamless, so the "impression" of reduced breaking is there. Not a safety issue at this point as far as anyone knows - but definitely a "driveability" type problem.
From: Mike Hunter on 5 Feb 2010 13:56 (Cross posting deleted, automatically) Apparently you have not head of the recall on 2010 Prius and FWD Lexus models "Clive" <Clive(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:MWeIixJvs2aLFwmx(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk... > In message <4b646f82$0$6584$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net>, Mike Hunter > <Mikehunt2(a)lycos.?.invalid> writes >>Guess where Toyota is going to actually use the parts that their customer >>NEED? They will be used first for unsold new cars on the dealerships >>lots, then on the Toyotas in their assembly plants storage lots. > According to the UK Toyota site all cars registered since January are fit > to drive. > -- > Clive >
From: Mike Hunter on 5 Feb 2010 13:59
(Cross posting deleted, automatically) Tell that to the nineteen killed, and the untold number of people injured, thus far. Even Toyota disagrees with your personal opinion, they are RECALLING 5.4 MILLION Vehicles word wide <clare(a)snyder.on.ca> wrote in message news:9n6nm5laojtpbdhno15n62j379f9fgu3ji(a)4ax.com... > On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 00:49:51 +0000, Clive <Clive(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk> > wrote: > >>In message <4b646f82$0$6584$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net>, Mike Hunter >><Mikehunt2(a)lycos.?.invalid> writes >>>Guess where Toyota is going to actually use the parts that their customer >>>NEED? They will be used first for unsold new cars on the dealerships >>>lots, then on the Toyotas in their assembly plants storage lots. >>According to the UK Toyota site all cars registered since January are >>fit to drive. > > > In Canada at least, you a WRONG. > Customers cars are first. Those with any sign of stiffness get > priority. Then come sold cars on dealers lots, then dealer inventory. > > New cars are unlikely to have a problem as it is a "combination of > wear and humidity" that is causing the problem. This whole thing is > being blown WAY out of proportion. > > And the "braking" problem on the Hybrids??? > Do you realize FORD has had to reflash the code on some of their > hybrids for the same problem?? Switching from regen to friction brakes > is NOT seamless, so the "impression" of reduced breaking is there. > > Not a safety issue at this point as far as anyone knows - but > definitely a "driveability" type problem. |