From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 23:42:11 -0500, Lookout wrote:

> On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 00:10:12 -0400, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 22:31:40 -0500, Lookout wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>Yeah, I know. But Bush was out of office for 12 months before this
>>>>happened.
>>>
>>> And the well was dug WHILE bush was in office. It's HIS fault the
>>> proper safeguards weren't in place.
>>
>>Hard to argue with logic like that.
>
> Yes it is.

You should know. With logic of the type you use, it must be very hard.

>
>>And yet, he does anyway.
>
> Nah..I'm not arguing. I'm simply stating the facts.

You don't have any 'facts', you're just negating anything put to you. Far
cry from 'facts'.


From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 00:19:00 -0500, Gray Ghost wrote:

>> There you go obfuscating the issue with facts, and pointing the finger
>> at Obungler.
>>
>> Now Lookout will have to schedule an emergency session with his
>> therapist...
>>
>>
> Dr Kevorkian one can hope.

Or a VA hospital...



From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 21:27:29 -0700, Aratzio wrote:

>>Which one? I did a Google search and found NOTHING!
>
> He is rferencing a Taiwanese ore carrier that has been converted into a
> *skimmer*. It is capable of collecting 5000,000 barrels of contaminated
> water a day. It just arrived from today and will begin processing after it
> is tested.
>
> It has never been used so there is no idea whether it will work. They
> cannot test it until the weater gets better.
>
> http://www.reuters.com/article/idUKN0115087620100701?type=companyNews
>
> It was not a big secret, it has been on its way for a couple weeks now. I
> guess they think sea ships can magically transport from across oceans in a
> day or two.

There were other offers within three days from the Ducth and the
Norweigans. The Norwegian Foriegn Minister himself said in a meeting that
the US more or less said "Thanks but no thanks".

The EMpty Suit sat on his hands.


From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 23:43:53 -0500, Lookout wrote:

>>It was not a big secret, it has been on its way for a couple weeks now.
>>I guess they think sea ships can magically transport from across oceans
>>in a day or two.
>
> I know which one he was talking about. It JUST because available in the
> past few days and wasn't available earlier. So his story that it could
> have helped earlier is simply his ignorance showing again.

But others were. Who said I was talking about that particular ship? Oh,
*you* did. OK...


U.S. Refuses International Help with Oil Spill Cleanup Lindsay Beyerstein
on May 7, 2010, 12:11 PM

<picture of a jackass. Quite fitting.>

As of last Wednesday, 13 entities had offered assistance with the Gulf oil
spill cleanup including Canada, Croatia, France, Germany, Ireland, Mexico,
the Netherlands, Norway, Romania, Republic of Korea, Spain, Sweden, the
United Kingdom, and the United Nations. The list offers came from a State
Department email to the press corps. "These offers include experts in
various aspects of oil spill impacts, research and technical expertise,
booms, chemical oil dispersants, oil pumps, skimmers, and wildlife
treatment," the email said. But yesterday, the State Department refused to
tell reporters which countries had offered to help, Josh Rogin reports at
The Cable.



Nations have offered their help to clean up the oil, but the
government's response has been more negative and then positive.

"The embassy got a nice letter from the administration that said,
'Thanks, but no thanks,'" Dutch consul general Geert Visser told the
Houston Chronicle's Loren Steffy.

The state department at one point refused to name the countries that had
offered help. On May 5th they let the public know that the UN and 11 other
countries had offered assets to help clean up the oil spill and to
prevent oil from reaching the coastline and marsh areas.

"While there is no need right now that the U.S. cannot meet, the U.S.
Coast Guard is assessing these offers of assistance to see if there will
be something which we will need in the near future." Foreign Policy's
Josh Rogin translated this into plain English: "The current message to
foreign governments is: "Thanks but no thanks, we've got it covered.'"


From: Lookout on
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 13:11:35 -0400, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS>
wrote:

>On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 17:00:56 -0500, Lookout wrote:
>
>>>Considering they were held off by bureaucacy, it's a little hard.
>>>
>>>Maybe if they had been allowed on site from the start it would have made
>>>a difference.
>>
>> "maybe" You're whining about this with no proof what so ever? What the
>> hell is wrong with you?
>
>Because 170 offers for help were blocked by the Obungle Administration.

Prove they would have made a difference.
>
>>>
>>>We'll see. A skimmer with the ability to handle 1,000,000 gallons a day
>>>just arrived in the Gulf.
>>
>> JUST arrived AFTER it was specifically retrofitted to do this type work.
>> If WAS NOT AVAILIBLE earlier.
>
>But others were and were denied entry to US waters.

Prove they would have made a difference.