From: Susan on
On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:35:16 GMT, someone(a)some.domain
(someone(a)some.domain) wrote:

>In article <q5ssc5t6h99u6ko60mgj2vob6hb8sle4o5(a)4ax.com>, Susan (It Started!) <susan(a)rooftop.com> wrote:

>>I can't thank everyone enough for their support, tips and input. I
>>have learned so much that I'm sure will come in handy. I turned the
>>truck off, as from messing with the alarm wires, the jkeyfob won't
>>control the power locks now, so I need to figure that out, and clean
>>my little Tonka Toy, then take it for a ride. I hope when I go to
>>start it, it starts right up until I get a chance to do whatever needs
>>doing. :) YAY!! I'm so happy.

>get a diagram and see. if it has mechanical parts, some switch cleaner may
>help. but get all the fobs right first!

Right... found a wiring diagram for the truck and power lock/unlock
wires are blue/white and blue/yellow, if this diagram is accurate. But
the harness on the alarm looks fine (inserted solidly). It could be
some splices have become fnarkled while I pushed wiring around looking
for a starter relay! Hopefully disconnecting the battery for 30 min
will reset it, as the alarm is acting weird in other ways in ways.
When I turn the it on, I get two weird clicks from the dash area,
which I have never heard the alarm make before, and then the LED
flashes like the alarm is on, but when I opened the door, nothing
happened. Then a few minutes later, doing basically the same thing, I
opened the door and the alarm DID go off, and the keyfob turned it
off, but it's still not controlling the door locks. Not sure if maybe
my keyfobs lost their programming or what. In the meantime I am off to
read the Viper manual again so see if I can figure out what's
happening while the battery sits disconnected...

But I am STILL HAPPY. :)
From: Susan on
On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 01:21:11 -0600, Oldphart
<mfj1952deletethis(a)cox.net> wrote:

>I have a wiring diagram for a 1993 toyota pickup 4wd ex cab which most
>likely will be very similar to yours. I would be glad to send a copy
>if you would like.

I want to thank you again for this offer. I was able to find the 1993
wiring diagram online, happily. :)
From: someone on
In article <vausc5h14vge0dm78sus0ipkmoskddu938(a)4ax.com>, Susan <susan(a)rooftop.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:35:16 GMT, someone(a)some.domain
>(someone(a)some.domain) wrote:
>
>>In article <q5ssc5t6h99u6ko60mgj2vob6hb8sle4o5(a)4ax.com>, Susan (It Started!)
> <susan(a)rooftop.com> wrote:
>
>>>I can't thank everyone enough for their support, tips and input. I
>>>have learned so much that I'm sure will come in handy. I turned the
>>>truck off, as from messing with the alarm wires, the jkeyfob won't
>>>control the power locks now, so I need to figure that out, and clean
>>>my little Tonka Toy, then take it for a ride. I hope when I go to
>>>start it, it starts right up until I get a chance to do whatever needs
>>>doing. :) YAY!! I'm so happy.
>
>>get a diagram and see. if it has mechanical parts, some switch cleaner may
>>help. but get all the fobs right first!
>
>Right... found a wiring diagram for the truck and power lock/unlock
>wires are blue/white and blue/yellow, if this diagram is accurate. But
>the harness on the alarm looks fine (inserted solidly). It could be
>some splices have become fnarkled while I pushed wiring around looking
>for a starter relay! Hopefully disconnecting the battery for 30 min
>will reset it, as the alarm is acting weird in other ways in ways.
>When I turn the it on, I get two weird clicks from the dash area,
>which I have never heard the alarm make before, and then the LED
>flashes like the alarm is on, but when I opened the door, nothing
>happened. Then a few minutes later, doing basically the same thing, I
>opened the door and the alarm DID go off, and the keyfob turned it
>off, but it's still not controlling the door locks. Not sure if maybe
>my keyfobs lost their programming or what. In the meantime I am off to
>read the Viper manual again so see if I can figure out what's
>happening while the battery sits disconnected...
>
>But I am STILL HAPPY. :)


i think you need more info,,,,used to be i loved yamaha bike wiring until they
started using britco's turn signals and started the lurking of the prince of
darkness. be afraid, like totally!
From: Susan on
From researching bebuilding the starter it became clear the rebuild is
simple -- it's removing the starter that's not fun. I found excellent
instructions for a 1991 4Runner 3VZE (everything should be the same as
my truck for this job) here:

http://www.yotatech.com/f128/starter-replacement-2nd-gen-4runner-76358/

....and I was tempted. After sleeping on it overnight, I decided to
call the auto shop to ask what they charge, figuring if it was around
$200 bucks, I'd save myself the aggrivation. (I was more worried about
getting the starter BACK IN, as those retaining bolts are not easy to
get to from the sound/look of it... I pictured myself on my back with
a bolt precariously balanced on the end of a 2-foot extension, in a
swivel joint, trying to line it up to start the first few threads, and
hearing the CLINK as it drops down through the wishbones for the 40th
time in a row...) They charge $225, so I dropped it off.

I'm not proud, but my truck is probably relieved.
From: Oldphart on
Susan wrote:
> From researching bebuilding the starter it became clear the rebuild is
> simple -- it's removing the starter that's not fun. I found excellent
> instructions for a 1991 4Runner 3VZE (everything should be the same as
> my truck for this job) here:
>
> http://www.yotatech.com/f128/starter-replacement-2nd-gen-4runner-76358/
>
> ...and I was tempted. After sleeping on it overnight, I decided to
> call the auto shop to ask what they charge, figuring if it was around
> $200 bucks, I'd save myself the aggrivation. (I was more worried about
> getting the starter BACK IN, as those retaining bolts are not easy to
> get to from the sound/look of it... I pictured myself on my back with
> a bolt precariously balanced on the end of a 2-foot extension, in a
> swivel joint, trying to line it up to start the first few threads, and
> hearing the CLINK as it drops down through the wishbones for the 40th
> time in a row...) They charge $225, so I dropped it off.
>
> I'm not proud, but my truck is probably relieved.
LOL......I love happy endings!!!!