From: john on
So slamming on the brakes enough to cause tires to catch fire still
can't stop the car? That's scary!

"In a 911 call, one of the passengers said the Lexus was speeding at
120 m.p.h., and witnesses said the car’s tires were on fire when it
crashed – possibly from the driver slamming on the brakes."

http://www.freep.com/article/20090930/BUSINESS01/309300004/1315/Toyota-recalls-3.8-million-vehicles--Mats-can-cause-stuck-accelerators

From: Jeff Strickland on

"john" <johngdole(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:856b26a6-caca-4e44-959b-7f014e36a29c(a)r24g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
So slamming on the brakes enough to cause tires to catch fire still
can't stop the car? That's scary!

"In a 911 call, one of the passengers said the Lexus was speeding at
120 m.p.h., and witnesses said the car�s tires were on fire when it
crashed � possibly from the driver slamming on the brakes."

http://www.freep.com/article/20090930/BUSINESS01/309300004/1315/Toyota-recalls-3.8-million-vehicles--Mats-can-cause-stuck-accelerators


<JS>
I'm thinking the driver must have rode the brakes far longer than was
needed to stop the car. I have to wonder how ling it took him to figure out
that the gas pedal was stuck ...


</JS>




From: Adam on
On Oct 1, 8:40 pm, john <johngd...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> So slamming on the brakes enough to cause tires to catch fire still
> can't stop the car? That's scary!
>
> "In a 911 call, one of the passengers said the Lexus was speeding at
> 120 m.p.h., and witnesses said the car’s tires were on fire when it
> crashed – possibly from the driver slamming on the brakes."
>
> http://www.freep.com/article/20090930/BUSINESS01/309300004/1315/Toyot...

If you have a runaway, turn on your fourway blinkers to telegraph your
fellow drivers you have a situation.Throw the shift into Neutral
(Notice that N is right next to D and you can usually shift into it
without pressing that shift button). Change into the right lane with a
suitable shoulder and coast or brake down to a safe slow speed.
Transfer into the shoulder and then stop. Turn off car. Breathe. Try
to correct any correctable condition. Loose water bottles tend to roll
under the accel pedal as well.

I am an advocate of driving refresher courses and people doing EVOC
courses. You be surprised how stupid people get after 6 months passing
their driving exam.
From: CEG on
On Oct 1, 11:34 pm, Adam <adam.vazq...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 1, 8:40 pm, john <johngd...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > So slamming on the brakes enough to cause tires to catch fire still
> > can't stop the car? That's scary!
>
> > "In a 911 call, one of the passengers said the Lexus was speeding at
> > 120 m.p.h., and witnesses said the car’s tires were on fire when it
> > crashed – possibly from the driver slamming on the brakes."
>
> >http://www.freep.com/article/20090930/BUSINESS01/309300004/1315/Toyot...
>
> If you have a runaway, turn on your fourway blinkers to telegraph your
> fellow drivers you have a situation.Throw the shift into Neutral
> (Notice that N is right next to D and you can usually shift into it
> without pressing that shift button). Change into the right lane with a
> suitable shoulder and coast or brake down to a safe slow speed.
> Transfer into the shoulder and then stop. Turn off car. Breathe. Try
> to correct any correctable condition. Loose water bottles tend to roll
> under the accel pedal as well.
>
> I am an advocate of driving refresher courses and people doing EVOC
> courses. You be surprised how stupid people get after 6 months passing
> their driving exam.

I wonder if they even tried to turn off the ignition at all. That is
all that is needed to stop a runaway car.
From: Adam on

> I wonder if they even tried to turn off the ignition at all. That is
> all that is needed to stop a runaway car.

Your age is showing. Some of the cars with those RFID chips inside the
keys you cant do that. At least with those cars with the Press to
Start button can kill the motor, but you have to read the manual
first. Some you have to hold the start button , some you have to press
twice. confusing aint it?

Turning off the ignition by turning the ignition key is not
necessarily the best way to stop a runaway. Most people twist the key
striaght to locking the steering column, making a bad situation worse.

The driver of that MVA was not the owner of the car, making the
situation worse, driving a unfamiliar car. Best practice with such an
auto is to throw it into neutral and let the rev limiter engage when
the engine red-lines.