From: fred on
john <johngdole(a)hotmail.com> wrote in
news:0dbebe1e-d08d-4e40-94b0-f3708655765e(a)c37g2000prb.googlegroups.com:

> That must be Toyota's way of taking the 5th!
>
> Before she died, the 5-foot-2, 125-pound woman told relatives she was
> practically standing with both feet on the brake pedal but could not
> stop the car from slamming into a building. Records confirm that
> emergency personnel found Grossman with both feet on the brake pedal.
>
> Toyota has for years blocked access to data stored in devices similar
> to airline "black boxes" that could explain crashes blamed on sudden
> unintended acceleration, according to an Associated Press review of
> lawsuits nationwide and interviews with auto crash experts.
>
> Full article at:
> http://finance.yahoo.com/news/AP-IMPACT-Toyota-secretive-on-apf-1294427
> 692.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=1&asset=&ccode=
>
What? you mean air bag data and/or ECU information? The former would
tend to explain the circumstances, It certainly is used by police
without any difficulties over here. If Toyota is somehow trying to say
that any data existing on a product they don't onw is somehow *their's*,
I appreciate it. I haven't seen something so outrageously nonsensical in
years. ECU information would only be of interest to people who *build*
and repair such systems of course. I'm not going to send the source code
for windows 7 to someone who simply can't shut their computer down. It's
a wasted effort and the person simply would have no idea what to do with
it.

This idea that somehow Toyota controls all this information without any
method of getting it without Toyota changing their mind on their own
without any other possible cause is also pure nonsence. It sounds like
this is lottle more that a journalist trying to specuate on things they
know nothing about.

All the government has to do is say, "As part of being allowed to sell
cars here, you are required to provide the source code and circuit
diagrams for all electronics in your cars to DOT upon release of the
model to the market." It may very well already be true.
From: Elder on
In article <hmr5ot$96q$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, cewhite3
@mindspring.com says...
> Of course this brings up the question of what is really the correct
> term for residents of the United States of America so as to avoid
> being confused with residents o North, Central, and South America.
>
Considering you heavy mix of races and backgrounds, I think you should
go with USAsians. To upset the white power freaks.
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