From: Mike Hunter on
Perhaps, but apparently too late to prevent the massive government recall.


"dbu''" <nospam(a)nobama.com.invalid> wrote in message
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> In article <elmop-D8F943.16563627012010(a)nothing.attdns.com>,
> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop(a)nastydesigns.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <4b60b241$0$20693$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net>,
>> "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote:
>>
>> > You can bet the farm that Toyota stopped sales for one reason, limiting
>> > litigation over all the dead owners...
>>
>> You can bet the farm that toyota stopped sales for one reason: the feds
>> told them to.
>>
>> Period.
>>
>> And that's the fact, Jack.
>
> Nope, the fed cannot stop a production line. The Toyota quality
> assurance can and did.
> --
>


From: Mike Hunter on
If you live on the left cost call your Toyota dealer and ask if you can buy
one of his Japanese made Camry's or a Yais'.


"Ray O" <rokigawa(a)NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote in message
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>> In the first place imported Camrys are included. However if you are a
>> subscriber to A.N, then you can look at the list published therein.
>
> I did again, and I am correct. I'm not sure if non-subscribers can see,
> this, but go to autonews.com, click on "DATA TABLE: Toyota Brand Recall"
> and
> on the page that comes, up, look at the second paragraph that begoins with
> "Models affected..."
>
> The list includes all Avalon, Tundra, and Sequoia models, which are all
> North American Production; then it adds: "plus North American-built models
> of Camry, Corolla, Matrix, Highlander and RAV4.
>
> It also lists among the models not included as Camry, Corola, Highlander,
> and RAV4 models not built in North America.
>
> When you go on and click on the table, it lists the Toyota factories
> included and the recalled models produced at those factories.
>
> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)
>>
>>
>> "Ray O" <rokigawa(a)NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote in message
>> news:hjq0aa$9g9$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>>
>>> "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote in message
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>>>> Not so. Both domestic an imported models have been issued the stop
>>>> sell
>>>> order.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> According to Automotive News, the stop sale and production halt only
>>> involves N.A. production. Which imported models have been issued the
>>> stop sale order?
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Ray O
>>> (correct punctuation to reply)
>>>
>>>> "Ray O" <rokigawa(a)NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:hjokgm$s7j$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>
>>>>> "C. E. White" <cewhite3remove(a)mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:zeqdnZRHbO32GMLWnZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d(a)earthlink.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Conscience" <nobama@g�v.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:hjnvu9$ogc$1(a)news.albasani.net...
>>>>>>> On 2010-01-26 15:45:43 -0800, "C. E. White"
>>>>>>> <cewhite3remove(a)mindspring.com> said:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From
>>>>>>>> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/01/26/business/main6144294.shtml?tag=stack -
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Toyota has instructed U.S. dealerships to suspend sales of eight
>>>>>>>> car and truck models with accelerators that stick.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "The company said last week that it is recalling 2.3 million of the
>>>>>>>> affected models, in which the gas pedal can stay depressed or
>>>>>>>> return
>>>>>>>> to quickly to idle - the latest in a string of quality problems
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> have bedeviled the Japanese automaker.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "The recall affects the 2009-2010 RAV4, the 2009-2010 Corolla, the
>>>>>>>> 2009-2010 Matrix, the 2005-2010 Avalon, the 2007-2010 Camry, the
>>>>>>>> 2010 Highlander, the 2007-2010 Tundra and the 2008-2010 Sequoia."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just called my daughter who has an '08 Tundra.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does it seem reasonable that all these different models can have the
>>>>>> same problem with accelerator pedals? I mean they all seem to be
>>>>>> significantly different in that area. I took a good look at my
>>>>>> Mother's Highlander and I don't see how the pedal can get stuck. And
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> can't tell any difference in the gas pedals between my SO's 2007 RAV4
>>>>>> (not recalled) and a 2009 RAV4 (recalled).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there something else linking all these models?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>
>>>>> The common denominator is that all of the vehicles involved in the
>>>>> second accelerator recall is that they were produced in North America.
>>>>> The Lexus ES, which shares its platform with the Camry and Highlander,
>>>>> is produced in Japan and not involved in this round. Toyota started
>>>>> producing the Rav 4 in November, 2008, which is why the 2007 Rav 4
>>>>> isn't involved. Toyota is focusing on pedal assemblies supplied by
>>>>> CTS
>>>>> in Canada.
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Ray O
>>>>> (correct punctuation to reply)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>


From: Mike Hunter on
Really, Canadian vehicles are imported or are the Aygo and Yaris assembled
in the US as well? ;)


"dr_jeff" <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in message
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> Ray O wrote:
>> "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote in message
>> news:4b60b136$0$20704$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net...
>>> In the first place imported Camrys are included. However if you are a
>>> subscriber to A.N, then you can look at the list published therein.
>>
>> I did again, and I am correct. I'm not sure if non-subscribers can see,
>> this, but go to autonews.com, click on "DATA TABLE: Toyota Brand Recall"
>> and
>> on the page that comes, up, look at the second paragraph that begoins
>> with
>> "Models affected..."
>>
>> The list includes all Avalon, Tundra, and Sequoia models, which are all
>> North American Production; then it adds: "plus North American-built
>> models
>> of Camry, Corolla, Matrix, Highlander and RAV4.
>>
>> It also lists among the models not included as Camry, Corola, Highlander,
>> and RAV4 models not built in North America.
>>
>> When you go on and click on the table, it lists the Toyota factories
>> included and the recalled models produced at those factories.
>
> Please stop it! Don't confuse Mike with facts and evidence.


From: Mike Hunter on
If you are polluting the neighborhood, probably. ;)


"dbu''" <nospam(a)nobama.com.invalid> wrote in message
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> In article <elmop-E77475.18502527012010(a)nothing.attdns.com>,
> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop(a)nastydesigns.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <juqdne5__NtgXv3WnZ2dnUVZ_tdi4p2d(a)giganews.com>,
>> dbu'' <nospam(a)nobama.com.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> > > You can bet the farm that toyota stopped sales for one reason: the
>> > > feds
>> > > told them to.
>> > >
>> > > Period.
>> > >
>> > > And that's the fact, Jack.
>> >
>> > Nope, the fed cannot stop a production line. The Toyota quality
>> > assurance can and did.
>>
>> Uh-huh. Sure.
>
> Well, look at it this way, unless the feds have a court (it would be
> doubtful) order could they come into your house and tell you to stop
> making bacon and eggs?
> --
>


From: Ray O on

"Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote in message
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> Really, Canadian vehicles are imported or are the Aygo and Yaris assembled
> in the US as well? ;)
>

The Aygo is not sold in the U.S., and the Aygo and Yaris are not subject to
the recall that precipitated the stop sale.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)
>
> "dr_jeff" <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in message
> news:k4KdnYO9YeZWRf3WnZ2dnUVZ_v1i4p2d(a)giganews.com...
>> Ray O wrote:
>>> "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote in message
>>> news:4b60b136$0$20704$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net...
>>>> In the first place imported Camrys are included. However if you are a
>>>> subscriber to A.N, then you can look at the list published therein.
>>>
>>> I did again, and I am correct. I'm not sure if non-subscribers can see,
>>> this, but go to autonews.com, click on "DATA TABLE: Toyota Brand Recall"
>>> and
>>> on the page that comes, up, look at the second paragraph that begoins
>>> with
>>> "Models affected..."
>>>
>>> The list includes all Avalon, Tundra, and Sequoia models, which are all
>>> North American Production; then it adds: "plus North American-built
>>> models
>>> of Camry, Corolla, Matrix, Highlander and RAV4.
>>>
>>> It also lists among the models not included as Camry, Corola,
>>> Highlander,
>>> and RAV4 models not built in North America.
>>>
>>> When you go on and click on the table, it lists the Toyota factories
>>> included and the recalled models produced at those factories.
>>
>> Please stop it! Don't confuse Mike with facts and evidence.
>
>