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From: Mike Hunter on 27 Jan 2010 19:43 Perhaps, but apparently too late to prevent the massive government recall. "dbu''" <nospam(a)nobama.com.invalid> wrote in message news:juqdne5__NtgXv3WnZ2dnUVZ_tdi4p2d(a)giganews.com... > In article <elmop-D8F943.16563627012010(a)nothing.attdns.com>, > "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop(a)nastydesigns.com> wrote: > >> In article <4b60b241$0$20693$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net>, >> "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote: >> >> > You can bet the farm that Toyota stopped sales for one reason, limiting >> > litigation over all the dead owners... >> >> You can bet the farm that toyota stopped sales for one reason: the feds >> told them to. >> >> Period. >> >> And that's the fact, Jack. > > Nope, the fed cannot stop a production line. The Toyota quality > assurance can and did. > -- >
From: Mike Hunter on 27 Jan 2010 19:47 If you live on the left cost call your Toyota dealer and ask if you can buy one of his Japanese made Camry's or a Yais'. "Ray O" <rokigawa(a)NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote in message news:hjqkhs$7a4$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote in message > news:4b60b136$0$20704$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net... >> In the first place imported Camrys are included. However if you are a >> subscriber to A.N, then you can look at the list published therein. > > I did again, and I am correct. I'm not sure if non-subscribers can see, > this, but go to autonews.com, click on "DATA TABLE: Toyota Brand Recall" > and > on the page that comes, up, look at the second paragraph that begoins with > "Models affected..." > > The list includes all Avalon, Tundra, and Sequoia models, which are all > North American Production; then it adds: "plus North American-built models > of Camry, Corolla, Matrix, Highlander and RAV4. > > It also lists among the models not included as Camry, Corola, Highlander, > and RAV4 models not built in North America. > > When you go on and click on the table, it lists the Toyota factories > included and the recalled models produced at those factories. > > -- > > Ray O > (correct punctuation to reply) >> >> >> "Ray O" <rokigawa(a)NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote in message >> news:hjq0aa$9g9$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>> >>> "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote in message >>> news:4b6076cc$0$20644$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net... >>>> Not so. Both domestic an imported models have been issued the stop >>>> sell >>>> order. >>>> >>>> >>> According to Automotive News, the stop sale and production halt only >>> involves N.A. production. Which imported models have been issued the >>> stop sale order? >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Ray O >>> (correct punctuation to reply) >>> >>>> "Ray O" <rokigawa(a)NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote in message >>>> news:hjokgm$s7j$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>>> >>>>> "C. E. White" <cewhite3remove(a)mindspring.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:zeqdnZRHbO32GMLWnZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d(a)earthlink.com... >>>>>> >>>>>> "Conscience" <nobama@g�v.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:hjnvu9$ogc$1(a)news.albasani.net... >>>>>>> On 2010-01-26 15:45:43 -0800, "C. E. White" >>>>>>> <cewhite3remove(a)mindspring.com> said: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From >>>>>>>> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/01/26/business/main6144294.shtml?tag=stack - >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Toyota has instructed U.S. dealerships to suspend sales of eight >>>>>>>> car and truck models with accelerators that stick. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "The company said last week that it is recalling 2.3 million of the >>>>>>>> affected models, in which the gas pedal can stay depressed or >>>>>>>> return >>>>>>>> to quickly to idle - the latest in a string of quality problems >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> have bedeviled the Japanese automaker. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "The recall affects the 2009-2010 RAV4, the 2009-2010 Corolla, the >>>>>>>> 2009-2010 Matrix, the 2005-2010 Avalon, the 2007-2010 Camry, the >>>>>>>> 2010 Highlander, the 2007-2010 Tundra and the 2008-2010 Sequoia." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just called my daughter who has an '08 Tundra. >>>>>> >>>>>> Does it seem reasonable that all these different models can have the >>>>>> same problem with accelerator pedals? I mean they all seem to be >>>>>> significantly different in that area. I took a good look at my >>>>>> Mother's Highlander and I don't see how the pedal can get stuck. And >>>>>> I >>>>>> can't tell any difference in the gas pedals between my SO's 2007 RAV4 >>>>>> (not recalled) and a 2009 RAV4 (recalled). >>>>>> >>>>>> Is there something else linking all these models? >>>>>> >>>>>> Ed >>>>> >>>>> The common denominator is that all of the vehicles involved in the >>>>> second accelerator recall is that they were produced in North America. >>>>> The Lexus ES, which shares its platform with the Camry and Highlander, >>>>> is produced in Japan and not involved in this round. Toyota started >>>>> producing the Rav 4 in November, 2008, which is why the 2007 Rav 4 >>>>> isn't involved. Toyota is focusing on pedal assemblies supplied by >>>>> CTS >>>>> in Canada. >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Ray O >>>>> (correct punctuation to reply) >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > >
From: Mike Hunter on 27 Jan 2010 20:33 Really, Canadian vehicles are imported or are the Aygo and Yaris assembled in the US as well? ;) "dr_jeff" <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in message news:k4KdnYO9YeZWRf3WnZ2dnUVZ_v1i4p2d(a)giganews.com... > Ray O wrote: >> "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote in message >> news:4b60b136$0$20704$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net... >>> In the first place imported Camrys are included. However if you are a >>> subscriber to A.N, then you can look at the list published therein. >> >> I did again, and I am correct. I'm not sure if non-subscribers can see, >> this, but go to autonews.com, click on "DATA TABLE: Toyota Brand Recall" >> and >> on the page that comes, up, look at the second paragraph that begoins >> with >> "Models affected..." >> >> The list includes all Avalon, Tundra, and Sequoia models, which are all >> North American Production; then it adds: "plus North American-built >> models >> of Camry, Corolla, Matrix, Highlander and RAV4. >> >> It also lists among the models not included as Camry, Corola, Highlander, >> and RAV4 models not built in North America. >> >> When you go on and click on the table, it lists the Toyota factories >> included and the recalled models produced at those factories. > > Please stop it! Don't confuse Mike with facts and evidence.
From: Mike Hunter on 27 Jan 2010 20:54 If you are polluting the neighborhood, probably. ;) "dbu''" <nospam(a)nobama.com.invalid> wrote in message news:sdKdnZbQRJT4R_3WnZ2dnUVZ_rRi4p2d(a)giganews.com... > In article <elmop-E77475.18502527012010(a)nothing.attdns.com>, > "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop(a)nastydesigns.com> wrote: > >> In article <juqdne5__NtgXv3WnZ2dnUVZ_tdi4p2d(a)giganews.com>, >> dbu'' <nospam(a)nobama.com.invalid> wrote: >> >> > > You can bet the farm that toyota stopped sales for one reason: the >> > > feds >> > > told them to. >> > > >> > > Period. >> > > >> > > And that's the fact, Jack. >> > >> > Nope, the fed cannot stop a production line. The Toyota quality >> > assurance can and did. >> >> Uh-huh. Sure. > > Well, look at it this way, unless the feds have a court (it would be > doubtful) order could they come into your house and tell you to stop > making bacon and eggs? > -- >
From: Ray O on 27 Jan 2010 22:54
"Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote in message news:4b60e80a$0$22834$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net... > Really, Canadian vehicles are imported or are the Aygo and Yaris assembled > in the US as well? ;) > The Aygo is not sold in the U.S., and the Aygo and Yaris are not subject to the recall that precipitated the stop sale. -- Ray O (correct punctuation to reply) > > "dr_jeff" <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in message > news:k4KdnYO9YeZWRf3WnZ2dnUVZ_v1i4p2d(a)giganews.com... >> Ray O wrote: >>> "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote in message >>> news:4b60b136$0$20704$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net... >>>> In the first place imported Camrys are included. However if you are a >>>> subscriber to A.N, then you can look at the list published therein. >>> >>> I did again, and I am correct. I'm not sure if non-subscribers can see, >>> this, but go to autonews.com, click on "DATA TABLE: Toyota Brand Recall" >>> and >>> on the page that comes, up, look at the second paragraph that begoins >>> with >>> "Models affected..." >>> >>> The list includes all Avalon, Tundra, and Sequoia models, which are all >>> North American Production; then it adds: "plus North American-built >>> models >>> of Camry, Corolla, Matrix, Highlander and RAV4. >>> >>> It also lists among the models not included as Camry, Corola, >>> Highlander, >>> and RAV4 models not built in North America. >>> >>> When you go on and click on the table, it lists the Toyota factories >>> included and the recalled models produced at those factories. >> >> Please stop it! Don't confuse Mike with facts and evidence. > > |