Toyota Suspends Sales of Recalled Vehicles
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From: Mike Hunter on 27 Jan 2010 12:28 Except for the fact Automotive News is reporting that Toyotas engineers are saying vehicles with conventional accelerator linkages are running away as well. "dbu''" <nospam(a)nobama.com.invalid> wrote in message news:zaCdnZaRyYF0i_3WnZ2dnUVZ_oRi4p2d(a)giganews.com... > In article <POednT44jeKbP8LWnZ2dnUVZ_qSdnZ2d(a)linkline.com>, > "Uncle_vito" <uncle_vito2002(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> I am not that sure it is the accelerator. It likely is the computer >> program. It is the same for all those vehicles. The program is >> defective >> in some way where it causes unintended acceleration. >> >> Vito > > No, not the software, but the throttle by wire, the input sensor, could > be defective. You know, garbage in = garbage out. > > > >> >> >> "C. E. White" <cewhite3remove(a)mindspring.com> wrote in message >> news:zeqdnZRHbO32GMLWnZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d(a)earthlink.com... >> > >> > "Conscience" <nobama(a)gvv.com> wrote in message >> > news:hjnvu9$ogc$1(a)news.albasani.net... >> >> On 2010-01-26 15:45:43 -0800, "C. E. White" >> >> <cewhite3remove(a)mindspring.com> said: >> >> >> >>> From >> >>> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/01/26/business/main6144294.shtml?tag=s >> >>> tack - >> >>> >> >>> "Toyota has instructed U.S. dealerships to suspend sales of eight car >> >>> and truck models with accelerators that stick. >> >>> >> >>> "The company said last week that it is recalling 2.3 million of the >> >>> affected models, in which the gas pedal can stay depressed or return >> >>> to >> >>> quickly to idle - the latest in a string of quality problems that >> >>> have >> >>> bedeviled the Japanese automaker. >> >>> >> >>> "The recall affects the 2009-2010 RAV4, the 2009-2010 Corolla, the >> >>> 2009-2010 Matrix, the 2005-2010 Avalon, the 2007-2010 Camry, the 2010 >> >>> Highlander, the 2007-2010 Tundra and the 2008-2010 Sequoia." >> >> >> >> Just called my daughter who has an '08 Tundra. >> > >> > Does it seem reasonable that all these different models can have the >> > same >> > problem with accelerator pedals? I mean they all seem to be >> > significantly >> > different in that area. I took a good look at my Mother's Highlander >> > and I >> > don't see how the pedal can get stuck. And I can't tell any difference >> > in >> > the gas pedals between my SO's 2007 RAV4 (not recalled) and a 2009 RAV4 >> > (recalled). >> > >> > Is there something else linking all these models? >> > >> > Ed >> > > -- >
From: Mike Hunter on 27 Jan 2010 12:30 Not so. Both domestic an imported models have been issued the stop sell order. "Ray O" <rokigawa(a)NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote in message news:hjokgm$s7j$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > "C. E. White" <cewhite3remove(a)mindspring.com> wrote in message > news:zeqdnZRHbO32GMLWnZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d(a)earthlink.com... >> >> "Conscience" <nobama@g�v.com> wrote in message >> news:hjnvu9$ogc$1(a)news.albasani.net... >>> On 2010-01-26 15:45:43 -0800, "C. E. White" >>> <cewhite3remove(a)mindspring.com> said: >>> >>>> From >>>> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/01/26/business/main6144294.shtml?tag=stack - >>>> >>>> "Toyota has instructed U.S. dealerships to suspend sales of eight car >>>> and truck models with accelerators that stick. >>>> >>>> "The company said last week that it is recalling 2.3 million of the >>>> affected models, in which the gas pedal can stay depressed or return to >>>> quickly to idle - the latest in a string of quality problems that have >>>> bedeviled the Japanese automaker. >>>> >>>> "The recall affects the 2009-2010 RAV4, the 2009-2010 Corolla, the >>>> 2009-2010 Matrix, the 2005-2010 Avalon, the 2007-2010 Camry, the 2010 >>>> Highlander, the 2007-2010 Tundra and the 2008-2010 Sequoia." >>> >>> Just called my daughter who has an '08 Tundra. >> >> Does it seem reasonable that all these different models can have the same >> problem with accelerator pedals? I mean they all seem to be significantly >> different in that area. I took a good look at my Mother's Highlander and >> I don't see how the pedal can get stuck. And I can't tell any difference >> in the gas pedals between my SO's 2007 RAV4 (not recalled) and a 2009 >> RAV4 (recalled). >> >> Is there something else linking all these models? >> >> Ed > > The common denominator is that all of the vehicles involved in the second > accelerator recall is that they were produced in North America. The Lexus > ES, which shares its platform with the Camry and Highlander, is produced > in Japan and not involved in this round. Toyota started producing the Rav > 4 in November, 2008, which is why the 2007 Rav 4 isn't involved. Toyota > is focusing on pedal assemblies supplied by CTS in Canada. > -- > > Ray O > (correct punctuation to reply) >
From: Ray O on 27 Jan 2010 12:37 "Scott in Florida" <WhoKnows(a)outa.here> wrote in message news:l6i0m5hvhtej8ak6bm5401olj3l6m78pu2(a)4ax.com... > On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 23:55:14 -0600, "Ray O" > <rokigawa(a)NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote: > >> >>"C. E. White" <cewhite3remove(a)mindspring.com> wrote in message >>news:zeqdnZRHbO32GMLWnZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d(a)earthlink.com... >>> >>> "Conscience" <nobama@g�v.com> wrote in message >>> news:hjnvu9$ogc$1(a)news.albasani.net... >>>> On 2010-01-26 15:45:43 -0800, "C. E. White" >>>> <cewhite3remove(a)mindspring.com> said: >>>> >>>>> From >>>>> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/01/26/business/main6144294.shtml?tag=stack - >>>>> >>>>> "Toyota has instructed U.S. dealerships to suspend sales of eight car >>>>> and truck models with accelerators that stick. >>>>> >>>>> "The company said last week that it is recalling 2.3 million of the >>>>> affected models, in which the gas pedal can stay depressed or return >>>>> to >>>>> quickly to idle - the latest in a string of quality problems that have >>>>> bedeviled the Japanese automaker. >>>>> >>>>> "The recall affects the 2009-2010 RAV4, the 2009-2010 Corolla, the >>>>> 2009-2010 Matrix, the 2005-2010 Avalon, the 2007-2010 Camry, the 2010 >>>>> Highlander, the 2007-2010 Tundra and the 2008-2010 Sequoia." >>>> >>>> Just called my daughter who has an '08 Tundra. >>> >>> Does it seem reasonable that all these different models can have the >>> same >>> problem with accelerator pedals? I mean they all seem to be >>> significantly >>> different in that area. I took a good look at my Mother's Highlander and >>> I >>> don't see how the pedal can get stuck. And I can't tell any difference >>> in >>> the gas pedals between my SO's 2007 RAV4 (not recalled) and a 2009 RAV4 >>> (recalled). >>> >>> Is there something else linking all these models? >>> >>> Ed >> >>The common denominator is that all of the vehicles involved in the second >>accelerator recall is that they were produced in North America. The Lexus >>ES, which shares its platform with the Camry and Highlander, is produced >>in >>Japan and not involved in this round. Toyota started producing the Rav 4 >>in >>November, 2008, which is why the 2007 Rav 4 isn't involved. Toyota is >>focusing on pedal assemblies supplied by CTS in Canada. > > Canada is to blame? > > Oh no..... > > -- > > Scott in Florida Well, we can't blame Tegger ;-) -- Ray O (correct punctuation to reply)
From: Ray O on 27 Jan 2010 13:22 "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote in message news:4b6076cc$0$20644$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net... > Not so. Both domestic an imported models have been issued the stop sell > order. > > According to Automotive News, the stop sale and production halt only involves N.A. production. Which imported models have been issued the stop sale order? -- Ray O (correct punctuation to reply) > "Ray O" <rokigawa(a)NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote in message > news:hjokgm$s7j$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> >> "C. E. White" <cewhite3remove(a)mindspring.com> wrote in message >> news:zeqdnZRHbO32GMLWnZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d(a)earthlink.com... >>> >>> "Conscience" <nobama@g�v.com> wrote in message >>> news:hjnvu9$ogc$1(a)news.albasani.net... >>>> On 2010-01-26 15:45:43 -0800, "C. E. White" >>>> <cewhite3remove(a)mindspring.com> said: >>>> >>>>> From >>>>> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/01/26/business/main6144294.shtml?tag=stack - >>>>> >>>>> "Toyota has instructed U.S. dealerships to suspend sales of eight car >>>>> and truck models with accelerators that stick. >>>>> >>>>> "The company said last week that it is recalling 2.3 million of the >>>>> affected models, in which the gas pedal can stay depressed or return >>>>> to quickly to idle - the latest in a string of quality problems that >>>>> have bedeviled the Japanese automaker. >>>>> >>>>> "The recall affects the 2009-2010 RAV4, the 2009-2010 Corolla, the >>>>> 2009-2010 Matrix, the 2005-2010 Avalon, the 2007-2010 Camry, the 2010 >>>>> Highlander, the 2007-2010 Tundra and the 2008-2010 Sequoia." >>>> >>>> Just called my daughter who has an '08 Tundra. >>> >>> Does it seem reasonable that all these different models can have the >>> same problem with accelerator pedals? I mean they all seem to be >>> significantly different in that area. I took a good look at my Mother's >>> Highlander and I don't see how the pedal can get stuck. And I can't tell >>> any difference in the gas pedals between my SO's 2007 RAV4 (not >>> recalled) and a 2009 RAV4 (recalled). >>> >>> Is there something else linking all these models? >>> >>> Ed >> >> The common denominator is that all of the vehicles involved in the second >> accelerator recall is that they were produced in North America. The >> Lexus ES, which shares its platform with the Camry and Highlander, is >> produced in Japan and not involved in this round. Toyota started >> producing the Rav 4 in November, 2008, which is why the 2007 Rav 4 isn't >> involved. Toyota is focusing on pedal assemblies supplied by CTS in >> Canada. >> -- >> >> Ray O >> (correct punctuation to reply) >> > >
From: SMS on 27 Jan 2010 14:15
Ray O wrote: > "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote in message > news:4b6076cc$0$20644$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net... >> Not so. Both domestic an imported models have been issued the stop sell >> order. >> >> > According to Automotive News, the stop sale and production halt only > involves N.A. production. Which imported models have been issued the stop > sale order? It's only north American production that has the problem. The defective component comes from a U.S. parts supplier, and it's apparently not used in the Japanese-produced Toyotas. However it's possible that they issued a blanket order to stop selling because they don't want dealers and consumers suddenly demanding only Japanese made vehicles. Thank goodness this problem occurred on Toyotas and not Fords or GMs! We all know the history of those companies when they discover safety-related issues that clearly warrant a recall! |