Toyota Suspends Sales of Recalled Vehicles
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From: Mike Hunter on 27 Jan 2010 16:43 You can bet the farm that Toyota stopped sales for one reason, limiting litigation over all the dead owners... I can hear the shark lawyers now, "They knew people were being killed and they continued to sell cars," just like the asbestos manufacturers ;) "SMS" <scharf.steven(a)geemail.com> wrote in message news:4b6090b0$0$1604$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net... > Ray O wrote: >> "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote in message >> news:4b6076cc$0$20644$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net... >>> Not so. Both domestic an imported models have been issued the stop sell >>> order. >>> >>> >> According to Automotive News, the stop sale and production halt only >> involves N.A. production. Which imported models have been issued the >> stop sale order? > > It's only north American production that has the problem. The defective > component comes from a U.S. parts supplier, and it's apparently not used > in the Japanese-produced Toyotas. However it's possible that they issued a > blanket order to stop selling because they don't want dealers and > consumers suddenly demanding only Japanese made vehicles. > > Thank goodness this problem occurred on Toyotas and not Fords or GMs! We > all know the history of those companies when they discover safety-related > issues that clearly warrant a recall!
From: Mike Hunter on 27 Jan 2010 16:45 I'm sure the Toyota loyalists will soon blame President Bush or the drug companies LOL "Tom" <tc(a)comcast.net> wrote in message news:hjq5em$mot$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > > "SMS" <scharf.steven(a)geemail.com> wrote in message > news:4b6090b0$0$1604$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net... >> Ray O wrote: >>> "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote in message >>> news:4b6076cc$0$20644$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net... >>>> Not so. Both domestic an imported models have been issued the stop >>>> sell order. >>>> >>>> >>> According to Automotive News, the stop sale and production halt only >>> involves N.A. production. Which imported models have been issued the >>> stop sale order? >> >> It's only north American production that has the problem. The defective >> component comes from a U.S. parts supplier, and it's apparently not used >> in the Japanese-produced Toyotas. However it's possible that they issued >> a blanket order to stop selling because they don't want dealers and >> consumers suddenly demanding only Japanese made vehicles. >> >> Thank goodness this problem occurred on Toyotas and not Fords or GMs! We >> all know the history of those companies when they discover safety-related >> issues that clearly warrant a recall! > > Please forgive toyota just shift the blame to fords and gm. > come on people just move to japan I think they will have a job waiting for > you
From: Mike Hunter on 27 Jan 2010 16:47 You mean like Toyotas sludged up engines? SMS" <scharf.steven(a)geemail.com> wrote in message news:4b60abb8$0$1597$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net... > Tom wrote: > >> Please forgive toyota just shift the blame to fords and gm. >> come on people just move to japan I think they will have a job waiting >> for you > > Ford and GM have a long history of aggressively fighting the government > when the government tells them that a safety related recall is necessary. > This needlessly endangers vehicle owners. > > Would you rather own a product from a company that when it learns about a > problem immediately takes steps to rectify it, or a product from a company > that when it learns about a problem immediately takes steps to deny it?
From: Ray O on 27 Jan 2010 19:08 "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote in message news:4b60b136$0$20704$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net... > In the first place imported Camrys are included. However if you are a > subscriber to A.N, then you can look at the list published therein. I did again, and I am correct. I'm not sure if non-subscribers can see, this, but go to autonews.com, click on "DATA TABLE: Toyota Brand Recall" and on the page that comes, up, look at the second paragraph that begoins with "Models affected..." The list includes all Avalon, Tundra, and Sequoia models, which are all North American Production; then it adds: "plus North American-built models of Camry, Corolla, Matrix, Highlander and RAV4. It also lists among the models not included as Camry, Corola, Highlander, and RAV4 models not built in North America. When you go on and click on the table, it lists the Toyota factories included and the recalled models produced at those factories. -- Ray O (correct punctuation to reply) > > > "Ray O" <rokigawa(a)NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote in message > news:hjq0aa$9g9$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> >> "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote in message >> news:4b6076cc$0$20644$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net... >>> Not so. Both domestic an imported models have been issued the stop sell >>> order. >>> >>> >> According to Automotive News, the stop sale and production halt only >> involves N.A. production. Which imported models have been issued the >> stop sale order? >> >> -- >> >> Ray O >> (correct punctuation to reply) >> >>> "Ray O" <rokigawa(a)NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote in message >>> news:hjokgm$s7j$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>> >>>> "C. E. White" <cewhite3remove(a)mindspring.com> wrote in message >>>> news:zeqdnZRHbO32GMLWnZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d(a)earthlink.com... >>>>> >>>>> "Conscience" <nobama@g�v.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:hjnvu9$ogc$1(a)news.albasani.net... >>>>>> On 2010-01-26 15:45:43 -0800, "C. E. White" >>>>>> <cewhite3remove(a)mindspring.com> said: >>>>>> >>>>>>> From >>>>>>> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/01/26/business/main6144294.shtml?tag=stack - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Toyota has instructed U.S. dealerships to suspend sales of eight >>>>>>> car and truck models with accelerators that stick. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "The company said last week that it is recalling 2.3 million of the >>>>>>> affected models, in which the gas pedal can stay depressed or return >>>>>>> to quickly to idle - the latest in a string of quality problems that >>>>>>> have bedeviled the Japanese automaker. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "The recall affects the 2009-2010 RAV4, the 2009-2010 Corolla, the >>>>>>> 2009-2010 Matrix, the 2005-2010 Avalon, the 2007-2010 Camry, the >>>>>>> 2010 Highlander, the 2007-2010 Tundra and the 2008-2010 Sequoia." >>>>>> >>>>>> Just called my daughter who has an '08 Tundra. >>>>> >>>>> Does it seem reasonable that all these different models can have the >>>>> same problem with accelerator pedals? I mean they all seem to be >>>>> significantly different in that area. I took a good look at my >>>>> Mother's Highlander and I don't see how the pedal can get stuck. And I >>>>> can't tell any difference in the gas pedals between my SO's 2007 RAV4 >>>>> (not recalled) and a 2009 RAV4 (recalled). >>>>> >>>>> Is there something else linking all these models? >>>>> >>>>> Ed >>>> >>>> The common denominator is that all of the vehicles involved in the >>>> second accelerator recall is that they were produced in North America. >>>> The Lexus ES, which shares its platform with the Camry and Highlander, >>>> is produced in Japan and not involved in this round. Toyota started >>>> producing the Rav 4 in November, 2008, which is why the 2007 Rav 4 >>>> isn't involved. Toyota is focusing on pedal assemblies supplied by CTS >>>> in Canada. >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Ray O >>>> (correct punctuation to reply) >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
From: dr_jeff on 27 Jan 2010 19:22
Ray O wrote: > "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote in message > news:4b60b136$0$20704$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net... >> In the first place imported Camrys are included. However if you are a >> subscriber to A.N, then you can look at the list published therein. > > I did again, and I am correct. I'm not sure if non-subscribers can see, > this, but go to autonews.com, click on "DATA TABLE: Toyota Brand Recall" and > on the page that comes, up, look at the second paragraph that begoins with > "Models affected..." > > The list includes all Avalon, Tundra, and Sequoia models, which are all > North American Production; then it adds: "plus North American-built models > of Camry, Corolla, Matrix, Highlander and RAV4. > > It also lists among the models not included as Camry, Corola, Highlander, > and RAV4 models not built in North America. > > When you go on and click on the table, it lists the Toyota factories > included and the recalled models produced at those factories. Please stop it! Don't confuse Mike with facts and evidence. |