Toyota Suspends Sales of Recalled Vehicles
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From: Ray O on 27 Jan 2010 00:55 "C. E. White" <cewhite3remove(a)mindspring.com> wrote in message news:zeqdnZRHbO32GMLWnZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d(a)earthlink.com... > > "Conscience" <nobama@g�v.com> wrote in message > news:hjnvu9$ogc$1(a)news.albasani.net... >> On 2010-01-26 15:45:43 -0800, "C. E. White" >> <cewhite3remove(a)mindspring.com> said: >> >>> From >>> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/01/26/business/main6144294.shtml?tag=stack - >>> >>> "Toyota has instructed U.S. dealerships to suspend sales of eight car >>> and truck models with accelerators that stick. >>> >>> "The company said last week that it is recalling 2.3 million of the >>> affected models, in which the gas pedal can stay depressed or return to >>> quickly to idle - the latest in a string of quality problems that have >>> bedeviled the Japanese automaker. >>> >>> "The recall affects the 2009-2010 RAV4, the 2009-2010 Corolla, the >>> 2009-2010 Matrix, the 2005-2010 Avalon, the 2007-2010 Camry, the 2010 >>> Highlander, the 2007-2010 Tundra and the 2008-2010 Sequoia." >> >> Just called my daughter who has an '08 Tundra. > > Does it seem reasonable that all these different models can have the same > problem with accelerator pedals? I mean they all seem to be significantly > different in that area. I took a good look at my Mother's Highlander and I > don't see how the pedal can get stuck. And I can't tell any difference in > the gas pedals between my SO's 2007 RAV4 (not recalled) and a 2009 RAV4 > (recalled). > > Is there something else linking all these models? > > Ed The common denominator is that all of the vehicles involved in the second accelerator recall is that they were produced in North America. The Lexus ES, which shares its platform with the Camry and Highlander, is produced in Japan and not involved in this round. Toyota started producing the Rav 4 in November, 2008, which is why the 2007 Rav 4 isn't involved. Toyota is focusing on pedal assemblies supplied by CTS in Canada. -- Ray O (correct punctuation to reply)
From: FatterDumber& Happier Moe on 27 Jan 2010 10:48 Scott in Florida wrote: > On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 23:55:14 -0600, "Ray O" > <rokigawa(a)NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote: > >> "C. E. White" <cewhite3remove(a)mindspring.com> wrote in message >> news:zeqdnZRHbO32GMLWnZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d(a)earthlink.com... >>> "Conscience" <nobama@g�v.com> wrote in message >>> news:hjnvu9$ogc$1(a)news.albasani.net... >>>> On 2010-01-26 15:45:43 -0800, "C. E. White" >>>> <cewhite3remove(a)mindspring.com> said: >>>> >>>>> From >>>>> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/01/26/business/main6144294.shtml?tag=stack - >>>>> >>>>> "Toyota has instructed U.S. dealerships to suspend sales of eight car >>>>> and truck models with accelerators that stick. >>>>> >>>>> "The company said last week that it is recalling 2.3 million of the >>>>> affected models, in which the gas pedal can stay depressed or return to >>>>> quickly to idle - the latest in a string of quality problems that have >>>>> bedeviled the Japanese automaker. >>>>> >>>>> "The recall affects the 2009-2010 RAV4, the 2009-2010 Corolla, the >>>>> 2009-2010 Matrix, the 2005-2010 Avalon, the 2007-2010 Camry, the 2010 >>>>> Highlander, the 2007-2010 Tundra and the 2008-2010 Sequoia." >>>> Just called my daughter who has an '08 Tundra. >>> Does it seem reasonable that all these different models can have the same >>> problem with accelerator pedals? I mean they all seem to be significantly >>> different in that area. I took a good look at my Mother's Highlander and I >>> don't see how the pedal can get stuck. And I can't tell any difference in >>> the gas pedals between my SO's 2007 RAV4 (not recalled) and a 2009 RAV4 >>> (recalled). >>> >>> Is there something else linking all these models? >>> >>> Ed >> The common denominator is that all of the vehicles involved in the second >> accelerator recall is that they were produced in North America. The Lexus >> ES, which shares its platform with the Camry and Highlander, is produced in >> Japan and not involved in this round. Toyota started producing the Rav 4 in >> November, 2008, which is why the 2007 Rav 4 isn't involved. Toyota is >> focusing on pedal assemblies supplied by CTS in Canada. > > Canada is to blame? > > Oh no..... > Didn't happen when Bush was president.
From: Mike Hunter on 27 Jan 2010 12:23 Sure, a poor engineering design. "C. E. White" <cewhite3remove(a)mindspring.com> wrote in message news:zeqdnZRHbO32GMLWnZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d(a)earthlink.com... > > "Conscience" <nobama@g�v.com> wrote in message > news:hjnvu9$ogc$1(a)news.albasani.net... >> On 2010-01-26 15:45:43 -0800, "C. E. White" >> <cewhite3remove(a)mindspring.com> said: >> >>> From >>> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/01/26/business/main6144294.shtml?tag=stack - >>> >>> "Toyota has instructed U.S. dealerships to suspend sales of eight car >>> and truck models with accelerators that stick. >>> >>> "The company said last week that it is recalling 2.3 million of the >>> affected models, in which the gas pedal can stay depressed or return to >>> quickly to idle - the latest in a string of quality problems that have >>> bedeviled the Japanese automaker. >>> >>> "The recall affects the 2009-2010 RAV4, the 2009-2010 Corolla, the >>> 2009-2010 Matrix, the 2005-2010 Avalon, the 2007-2010 Camry, the 2010 >>> Highlander, the 2007-2010 Tundra and the 2008-2010 Sequoia." >> >> Just called my daughter who has an '08 Tundra. > > Does it seem reasonable that all these different models can have the same > problem with accelerator pedals? I mean they all seem to be significantly > different in that area. I took a good look at my Mother's Highlander and I > don't see how the pedal can get stuck. And I can't tell any difference in > the gas pedals between my SO's 2007 RAV4 (not recalled) and a 2009 RAV4 > (recalled). > > Is there something else linking all these models? > > Ed
From: Mike Hunter on 27 Jan 2010 12:24 Toyotas with fly by wire systems are running away as well, according the A.N. "dr_jeff" <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in message news:i7-dncFEsqkeFMLWnZ2dnUVZ_sdi4p2d(a)giganews.com... > C. E. White wrote: >> >> "Conscience" <nobama@g�v.com> wrote in message >> news:hjnvu9$ogc$1(a)news.albasani.net... >>> On 2010-01-26 15:45:43 -0800, "C. E. White" >>> <cewhite3remove(a)mindspring.com> said: >>> >>>> From >>>> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/01/26/business/main6144294.shtml?tag=stack - >>>> >>>> "Toyota has instructed U.S. dealerships to suspend sales of eight car >>>> and truck models with accelerators that stick. >>>> >>>> "The company said last week that it is recalling 2.3 million of the >>>> affected models, in which the gas pedal can stay depressed or return to >>>> quickly to idle - the latest in a string of quality problems that have >>>> bedeviled the Japanese automaker. >>>> >>>> "The recall affects the 2009-2010 RAV4, the 2009-2010 Corolla, the >>>> 2009-2010 Matrix, the 2005-2010 Avalon, the 2007-2010 Camry, the 2010 >>>> Highlander, the 2007-2010 Tundra and the 2008-2010 Sequoia." >>> >>> Just called my daughter who has an '08 Tundra. >> >> Does it seem reasonable that all these different models can have the same >> problem with accelerator pedals? I mean they all seem to be significantly >> different in that area. I took a good look at my Mother's Highlander and >> I don't see how the pedal can get stuck. And I can't tell any difference >> in the gas pedals between my SO's 2007 RAV4 (not recalled) and a 2009 >> RAV4 (recalled). >> >> Is there something else linking all these models? >> >> Ed > > The type of accelerator cable, which may be the problem.
From: Mike Hunter on 27 Jan 2010 12:25
I'll bet that is what the Toyota engineers are looking at right now. "Uncle_vito" <uncle_vito2002(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:POednT44jeKbP8LWnZ2dnUVZ_qSdnZ2d(a)linkline.com... >I am not that sure it is the accelerator. It likely is the computer >program. It is the same for all those vehicles. The program is defective >in some way where it causes unintended acceleration. > > Vito > > > "C. E. White" <cewhite3remove(a)mindspring.com> wrote in message > news:zeqdnZRHbO32GMLWnZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d(a)earthlink.com... >> >> "Conscience" <nobama(a)gvv.com> wrote in message >> news:hjnvu9$ogc$1(a)news.albasani.net... >>> On 2010-01-26 15:45:43 -0800, "C. E. White" >>> <cewhite3remove(a)mindspring.com> said: >>> >>>> From >>>> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/01/26/business/main6144294.shtml?tag=stack - >>>> >>>> "Toyota has instructed U.S. dealerships to suspend sales of eight car >>>> and truck models with accelerators that stick. >>>> >>>> "The company said last week that it is recalling 2.3 million of the >>>> affected models, in which the gas pedal can stay depressed or return to >>>> quickly to idle - the latest in a string of quality problems that have >>>> bedeviled the Japanese automaker. >>>> >>>> "The recall affects the 2009-2010 RAV4, the 2009-2010 Corolla, the >>>> 2009-2010 Matrix, the 2005-2010 Avalon, the 2007-2010 Camry, the 2010 >>>> Highlander, the 2007-2010 Tundra and the 2008-2010 Sequoia." >>> >>> Just called my daughter who has an '08 Tundra. >> >> Does it seem reasonable that all these different models can have the same >> problem with accelerator pedals? I mean they all seem to be significantly >> different in that area. I took a good look at my Mother's Highlander and >> I don't see how the pedal can get stuck. And I can't tell any difference >> in the gas pedals between my SO's 2007 RAV4 (not recalled) and a 2009 >> RAV4 (recalled). >> >> Is there something else linking all these models? >> >> Ed >> > > |