Toyota Runaway Cause: Electronic Throttle/Cruise Control?
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From: Daniel Who Wants to Know on 8 Nov 2009 22:11 "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop(a)nastydesigns.com> wrote in message news:elmop-D91696.07431308112009(a)news.eternal-september.org... > In article > <baf91ca7-6bf9-44fb-bd67-63d15651337d(a)d5g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, > jr92 <coachrose13(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> I think one could fall asleep, let his right foot fully accerlate the >> gas pedel, and drive five miles before the auto would reach dangerous >> levels, speed-wise, in a Prius. > > You would think wrong. Correct. The car is electronically limited (not power limited) to roughly 105 MPH. If you floor it the car will accelerate to 105 and then hold there at that speed as if you had set the cruise control.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 8 Nov 2009 20:22 On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:13:27 -0800, jr92 wrote: > On Nov 8, 12:13 am, Hachiroku ハチロク <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: >> On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:17:13 -0800, jr92 wrote: >> > On Nov 4, 10:26 pm, john <johngd...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> A Prius owner tried to resume her cruise control, and then the car >> >> accelerated out of control. >> >> >>http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=8982147 >> >> >>http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/RunawayToyotas/ >> >> > I had the same problem happen to me many years ago. My '76 Pinto had >> > the throttle stick wide open. After about 8 minutes, and a top end >> > speed of about 67mph, I found a cotton field and ran it into it, >> > slowing me down enough that I could jump out of the car before it hit >> > a fence post. I wasnt hurt, but it cost me 94 bucks to replace the >> > bumper that was busted, >> >> Could have definitely put that car into neutral, shut off the engine and >> coasted to a stop...> >> >> >> >> > Point being, how the hell does a Toyota PRUIS "ACCELERATE OUT OF >> > CONTROL" under ANY conditions????????????? >> >> I think the correct term is "Operator Error".- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > > > I think one could fall asleep, let his right foot fully accerlate the gas > pedel, and drive five miles before the auto would reach dangerous levels, > speed-wise, in a Prius. LOL! Not quite. They're actually pretty quick, because the DC motor produces all its torque from 0RPM.
From: Mr Ed on 9 Nov 2009 10:30 "C. E. White" <cewhite3(a)mindspring.com> wrote in message news:6Y-dnXElQaLDrGrXnZ2dnUVZ_uKdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com... > > "Not Me" <Not.Me(a)Home.Base> wrote in message > news:neWdnXKt3Y2WbGvXnZ2dnUVZ_uJi4p2d(a)speakeasy.net... >> jr92 wrote: >>> I had the same problem happen to me many years ago. My '76 Pinto had >>> the throttle stick wide open. After about 8 minutes, and a top end >>> speed of about 67mph, I found a cotton field and ran it into it, >>> slowing me down enough that I could jump out of the car before it hit >>> a fence post. I wasnt hurt, but it cost me 94 bucks to replace the >>> bumper that was busted >> >> Lucky you didn't burn to death in the fuel fire Pintos were famous for. > > While Pinto's may have been famous for this, it was not a justifiable > accusation. The facts are much different that the perception. Pintos were > no more likely to catch on fire that other small cars from the same era. > Pintos were the victim of a viscous smear campaign sort of like what is > building over this Toyota floor mat / cruise control / unintended > acceleration issue. > > Ed It was a justifiable accusation. My son's car was rear ended and it shortened his Pinto by 4 inches. We wrapped a chain around the bumper to a tree, floored it and got 3 inches back. We looked at his gas tank and it had the drain plug indentation in the gas tank metal. He was one of the lucky ones. It didn't pierce it and explode. The drain plug should have been placed elsewhere out of dangers way. Then if it exploded it would be a normal accident. Mr Ed http://www.ed-camin.com http://home.earthlink.net/~bcamin/betty.htm http://www.mountairykiwanis.org http://www.ma-artleague.org http://home.earthlink.net/~j3dogs/index.htm http://home.earthlink.net/~donnahayes/index.htm
From: E. Meyer on 9 Nov 2009 12:09 On 11/9/09 9:30 AM, in article hJadnXIdqY48qGXXnZ2dnUVZ_qSdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com, "Mr Ed" <ecamin(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > "C. E. White" <cewhite3(a)mindspring.com> wrote in message > news:6Y-dnXElQaLDrGrXnZ2dnUVZ_uKdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com... >> >> "Not Me" <Not.Me(a)Home.Base> wrote in message >> news:neWdnXKt3Y2WbGvXnZ2dnUVZ_uJi4p2d(a)speakeasy.net... >>> jr92 wrote: >>>> I had the same problem happen to me many years ago. My '76 Pinto had >>>> the throttle stick wide open. After about 8 minutes, and a top end >>>> speed of about 67mph, I found a cotton field and ran it into it, >>>> slowing me down enough that I could jump out of the car before it hit >>>> a fence post. I wasnt hurt, but it cost me 94 bucks to replace the >>>> bumper that was busted >>> >>> Lucky you didn't burn to death in the fuel fire Pintos were famous for. >> >> While Pinto's may have been famous for this, it was not a justifiable >> accusation. The facts are much different that the perception. Pintos were >> no more likely to catch on fire that other small cars from the same era. >> Pintos were the victim of a viscous smear campaign sort of like what is >> building over this Toyota floor mat / cruise control / unintended >> acceleration issue. >> >> Ed > It was a justifiable accusation. My son's car was rear ended and it > shortened his Pinto by 4 inches. We wrapped a chain around the bumper to a > tree, floored it and got 3 inches back. We looked at his gas tank and it > had the drain plug indentation in the gas tank metal. He was one of the > lucky ones. It didn't pierce it and explode. The drain plug should have > been placed elsewhere out of dangers way. Then if it exploded it would be a > normal accident. > And that was the essence of it. It was a very small car (by 1970's standards) and because of the placement & design of the gas tank, if they were rear-ended, they could & did blow up. To call it a "fuel fire" really doesn't connote the actual problem. Paranoia at the time smeared across all Fords and for a while, all you could find in the used car lots were used Fords as people dumped them for anything else. I got a really nice '70 Torino wagon for $150 at the height of the craziness. Drove it for 6 months until things settled down & sold it for $500. > Mr Ed > http://www.ed-camin.com > http://home.earthlink.net/~bcamin/betty.htm > http://www.mountairykiwanis.org > http://www.ma-artleague.org > http://home.earthlink.net/~j3dogs/index.htm > http://home.earthlink.net/~donnahayes/index.htm > >
From: Al Falfa on 9 Nov 2009 15:07
"E. Meyer" <epmeyer50(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:C71DA903.1376D%epmeyer50(a)gmail.com... > Paranoia at the time smeared across all Fords and for a while, all you > could > find in the used car lots were used Fords as people dumped them for > anything > else. I got a really nice '70 Torino wagon for $150 at the height of the > craziness. Drove it for 6 months until things settled down & sold it for > $500. > A friend of mine was crushed to death while unloading the trunk of her Ford when it jumped from park into reverse. Then, of course, there were the exploding gas tanks on those Chevrolet and GMC pickups. Tort reform. That's the answer. |